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    How does Trump sound in his "America First" message to congress preface of his budget proposal?


    Beginning a New Chapter of American Greatness

    A MESSAGE TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:


    The American people elected me to fight for their priorities in Washington, D.C. and deliver on my promise to protect our Nation. I fully intend to keep that promise.
    One of the most important ways the Federal Government sets priorities is through the Budget of the United States.

    Accordingly, I submit to the Congress this Budget Blueprint to reprioritize Federal spending so that it advances the safety and security of the American people.
    Our aim is to meet the simple, but crucial demand of our citizens—a Government that puts the needs of its own people first. When we do that, we will set free the dreams of every American, and we will begin a new chapter of American greatness.

    A budget that puts America first must make the safety of our people its number one priority—because without safety, there can be no prosperity.
    That is why I have instructed my Budget Director, Mick Mulvaney, to craft a budget that emphasizes national security and public safety. That work is reflected in this Budget Blueprint. To keep Americans safe, we have made tough choices that have been put off for too long. But we have also made necessary investments that are long overdue.

    My Budget Blueprint for 2018:

    • provides for one of the largest increases in defense spending without increasing the debt;
    • significantly increases the budget for immigration enforcement at the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security;
    • includes additional resources for a wall on the southern border with Mexico, immigration judges, expanded detention capacity, U.S. Attorneys, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Border Patrol;
    • increases funding to address violent crime and reduces opioid abuse; and
    • puts America first by keeping more of America’s hard-earned tax dollars here at home.

    The core of my first Budget Blueprint is the rebuilding of our Nation’s military without adding to our Federal deficit. There is a $54 billion increase in defense spending in 2018 that is offset by targeted reductions elsewhere. This defense funding is vital to rebuilding and preparing our Armed Forces for the future.
    We must ensure that our courageous servicemen and women have the tools they need to deter war, and when called upon to fight, do only one thing: Win.

    In these dangerous times, this public safety and national security Budget Blueprint is a message to the world—a message of American strength, security, and resolve.
    This Budget Blueprint follows through on my promise to focus on keeping Americans safe, keeping terrorists out of our country, and putting violent offenders behind bars.

    The defense and public safety spending increases in this Budget Blueprint are offset and paid for by finding greater savings and efficiencies across the Federal Government. Our Budget Blueprint insists on $54 billion in reductions to non-Defense programs. We are going to do more with less, and make the Government lean and accountable to the people.

    This includes deep cuts to foreign aid. It is time to prioritize the security and well-being of Americans, and to ask the rest of the world to step up and pay its fair share.

    Many other Government agencies and departments will also experience cuts. These cuts are sensible and rational. Every agency and department will be driven to achieve greater efficiency and to eliminate wasteful spending in carrying out their honorable service to the American people.
    I look forward to engaging the Congress and enacting this America First Budget.

    Donald J. Trump



    I like the cutting of foreign aid. I oppose adding $54 billion increase in military expenditures. The border wall is a complete waste of money. Cutting funds for the EPA, Agriculture Department and State Department really doesn't bother me.
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    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post

    So true.
    So keep your candles burning
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    So true.

    It's happening all over, too. Trump voters are collectively 'meh' when it's clear that Trump goofed. It causes a bit (more) of a credibility problem among his supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post

    It's happening all over, too. Trump voters are collectively 'meh' when it's clear that Trump goofed. It causes a bit (more) of a credibility problem among his supporters.
    He's beaten the "Fake News!" drum so effectively, they won't believe it even when I post the same info from a conservative source.

    And I saw an interesting comment: "If it's not on FOX, is it news?"

    FOX practically ignored the classified leak story, focusing instead on a story about Hillary and burying the big Trump story. Combine that with the downplay by Breitbart and Drudge, and a historically significant situation practically doesn't exist if the only news someone reads/sees is on FOX, Drudge and Breitbart.
    So keep your candles burning
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    What does everyone think about Trump trying to weaken the Johnson Amendment related to churches endorsing political candidates?
    Good, bad, ugly?

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    So Thaaaaat’s Why the Communistic Left Made Up the “Russia Conspiracy” Story
    Thomas DiLorenzo

    Last July a young Democratic National Committee staffer named Seth Rich was murdered in cold blood, at night, on a Washington, D.C. street, with a bullet in his head, from behind, Mafia style. Or Clinton Crime Family style. *The D.C. police claim that it was a robbery even though nothing appears to have been stolen. *Several D.C. police authorities have told reporters that someone very powerful told them to “stand down” with their investigation of this murder.
    Now a private investigator employed by the Rich family has discovered that Seth Rich had on his computer 45,053 emails and 17,761 attachments that were communications from within the DNC that he had sent to Wikileaks. ** These emails were made public and showed, among other things, how the DNC under Debbie Blabbermouth-Schultz (as Rush Limbaugh has entertainingly tagged her) had rigged the primary process to screw Bernie Sanders and guarantee Hillary Clinton’s nomination. *Blabbermouth-Schultz was then fired from her position as chairwoman of the DNC and then immediately re-employed by the Clinton campaign. *Wikileaks has offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the murderer(s). *So, apparently, it was Seth Rich, not “the Russians,” who sent this damning DNC information to Wikileaks. *The FBI is said to be “in possession” of all of this correspondence from Seth Rich’s computer, but of course no one expects anything to come of it. *That would require at least questioning those who had motive of revenge that led to the murder. *Such investigations are only for those of us who are among The Ignorant Masses and never our rulers in Washington.
    Professional grifters like the Clintons know that a successful grifter always diverts the target’s attention away from the impending crime (usually theft with most small-time grifters). *The constant, never-ending, baseless, McCarthyite, drumbeat by the LMS (Lying Media Scum) about an Orwellian Russia conspiracy certainly fulfills that role.

    hmmmmm
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    So Thaaaaat’s Why the Communistic Left Made Up the “Russia Conspiracy” Story
    Thomas DiLorenzo

    Last July a young Democratic National Committee staffer named Seth Rich was murdered in cold blood, at night, on a Washington, D.C. street, with a bullet in his head, from behind, Mafia style. Or Clinton Crime Family style. *The D.C. police claim that it was a robbery even though nothing appears to have been stolen. *Several D.C. police authorities have told reporters that someone very powerful told them to “stand down” with their investigation of this murder.
    Now a private investigator employed by the Rich family has discovered that Seth Rich had on his computer 45,053 emails and 17,761 attachments that were communications from within the DNC that he had sent to Wikileaks. ** These emails were made public and showed, among other things, how the DNC under Debbie Blabbermouth-Schultz (as Rush Limbaugh has entertainingly tagged her) had rigged the primary process to screw Bernie Sanders and guarantee Hillary Clinton’s nomination. *Blabbermouth-Schultz was then fired from her position as chairwoman of the DNC and then immediately re-employed by the Clinton campaign. *Wikileaks has offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the murderer(s). *So, apparently, it was Seth Rich, not “the Russians,” who sent this damning DNC information to Wikileaks. *The FBI is said to be “in possession” of all of this correspondence from Seth Rich’s computer, but of course no one expects anything to come of it. *That would require at least questioning those who had motive of revenge that led to the murder. *Such investigations are only for those of us who are among The Ignorant Masses and never our rulers in Washington.
    Professional grifters like the Clintons know that a successful grifter always diverts the target’s attention away from the impending crime (usually theft with most small-time grifters). *The constant, never-ending, baseless, McCarthyite, drumbeat by the LMS (Lying Media Scum) about an Orwellian Russia conspiracy certainly fulfills that role.

    hmmmmm
    How A Fox Affiliate And Contributor Fueled Fringe Conspiracy Theories About Murdered DNC Staffer

    A Washington, D.C., Fox News affiliate’s shoddy reporting purposefully validated right-wing conspiracy theories about the murder of Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich when the station published unproven claims that Rich directly communicated with WikiLeaks regarding the leaked committee emails published on that site. Following the publication of the Fox 5 DC story, Fox News hosts Bret Baier and Sean Hannity further fueled the conspiracy theories when they retweeted new conspiracies about the Rich story, including a false claim that a Washington Post report on Trump sharing classified information with Russia was published to drown out Fox 5's story.

    In a May 15 article and subsequent newscast, Fox 5 DC’s Marina Marraco quoted Rod Wheeler, a private investigator once hired to assist the Rich family’s search for Rich’s killer, who claimed that “a source inside the police department” told him that the department was “‘told to stand down on this case.’” Wheeler also said it was “confirmed” that Rich had links to WikiLeaks. Alex Griswold, a reporter for right-wing publication the Washington Free Beacon, pointed out that Fox 5’s story was “entirely hearsay” and chided the news station for failing to disclose that Wheeler is a vocal Trump supporter and a paid Fox News analyst.

    The article was updated on May 16 to include a note that the station had spoken to D.C. police since publication and was told that Wheeler’s claim was false. The Rich family issued a statement saying family members had seen “no facts” and “no evidence” to suggest Rich had worked with WikiLeaks. It also noted that a “third party” paid Wheeler for his investigative work and that he was “contractually … barred from speaking to press.” But the updates came too late to prevent the unsubstantiated claims published in Fox 5 DC’s report from becoming fuel for the right-wing conspiracy theory machine. (Marraco’s article even acknowledged that the claims she was publishing “could prove these theorists right.”)

    By the next morning, fringe right-wing media and conspiracy theory websites had run full speed with the false allegations made in the Fox 5 DC article. Breitbart.com ran an article on its home page claiming that Fox’s shoddily sourced article may prove that the hack of DNC emails was “an inside job.” The Drudge Report ran a screaming banner on its site claiming Rich “had contact” with WikiLeaks and linked to the Fox 5 DC article.

    The Gateway Pundit published a “BREAKING” piece about the conspiracy theory linking to the Fox 5 DC article. Fringe conspiracy theory sites World News Daily and ZeroHedge also regurgitated the Fox 5 DC article to claim a conspiracy theory. The baseless speculation quickly jumped to more established outlets, as FoxNews.com made it the lead morning story on its website, and Sinclair Broadcast Group’s Circa News and Fox News’ Fox & Friends also promoted the story...

    Some conspiracy theorists, including InfoWars' Paul Joseph Watson, even spread claims that The Washington Post’s report about President Donald Trump sharing highly classified information with Russian officials was printed to drown out the “bombshell news” story reported by the Fox affiliate. Fox News hosts Bret Baier and Sean Hannity retweeted this false claim. But Washington Post political reporter Dave Weigel set the record straight, noting that the Washington Post story went up before the Fox 5 story was published.
    So keep your candles burning
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    What does everyone think about Trump trying to weaken the Johnson Amendment related to churches endorsing political candidates?
    Good, bad, ugly?
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
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    The family of the Democratic National Committee staffer who was gunned down on July 10 on a Washington, D.C., blasted reports that he was a source of thousands of emails leaked to WikiLeaks.

    Rod Wheeler, a retired Washington homicide detective and Fox News contributor investigating the case on behalf of the Rich family, made the WikiLeaks claim, which was corroborated by a federal investigator who spoke to Fox News.

    But a spokesman for Rich's family on Tuesday said Wheeler was not authorized to speak for the family and called assertions Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks "unsubstantiated." Brad Bauman said even if purported emails were to surface, it would not necessarily mean Rich had helped WikiLeaks.
    "Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so," Bauman said. "We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers."
    Although Bauman Wheeler was paid by a third party, the family is named as clients of Wheeler's Capitol Investigations on a contract signed by Rich's father, Joel Rich.

    The family has been sensitive to speculation that Rich could have leaked emails damaging to the DNC since he was murdered during the height of the presidential campaign in a case that remains unsolved. Wheeler and the federal investigator insist that there is evidence to back their claims.
    An FBI forensic report of Rich's computer --*generated within 96 hours after Rich's murder -- showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News.

    “I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.
    The revelation is consistent with the findings of Wheeler, whose private investigation firm was hired by a third party on behalf of Rich’s family to probe the case.
    “My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” Wheeler said. “I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters.”
    The federal investigator, who requested anonymity, said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich to MacFadyen before May 21.
    On July 22, just 12 days after Rich was killed, WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails that appeared to show top party officials conspired to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont from becoming the party’s presidential nominee. That controversy resulted in Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigning as DNC chairperson.
    WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange has stopped short of identifying Rich as the source of the emails, but has taken a keen interest in the case, and has not denied working with Rich.
    “WikiLeaks has decided to issue a US$20k reward for information leading to conviction for the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich,” the organization announced.
    Assange has not returned a series of recent emails from Fox News about Rich. MacFadyen, who was considered a mentor by Assange, died of lung cancer on Oct. 22 at age 76.
    Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department has no suspects and no substantial leads as to who the killer or killers may be, sources close to the investigation said. Metropolitan Police, including the police chief, have refused to discuss the case, despite requests from Fox News dating back 10 months.
    The department released a statement on the case saying it remains an active investigation and that detectives are working with Rich's family.
    "If there are any individuals who feel they have information, we urge them to call us at (202) 727-9099 or text us at 50411," read the statement. "The department is offering a reward of up to $25,000 for information on this case that leads to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible."
    The FBI’s national office declined to comment, but sources said the bureau provided cyber expertise to examine Rich’s computer.
    D.C. police have announced a $25,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of Rich’s killer. Republican lobbyist Jack Burkman has offered a separate $130,000 reward.
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Seth Rich family spokesperson: "no evidence," "no emails" suggesting Wikileaks links. Comes day after story claiming family PI found links
    So keep your candles burning
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Alex Campbell‏ Verified account
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    Seth Rich family spokesperson: "no evidence," "no emails" suggesting Wikileaks links. Comes day after story claiming family PI found links
    I can understand the family not wanting to say anything contrary.

    And I really don't blame em either.
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    What does everyone think about Trump trying to weaken the Johnson Amendment related to churches endorsing political candidates?
    Good, bad, ugly?
    Good if he is using this as a ploy to increase the tax base. Bad if he wants churches to be more involved in supporting political parties or candidates and ugly if a case involving a repeal of the Johnson Amendment ends up in the hands of the Supreme Court
    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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