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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    You are joking right?

    I refuted your singular verse with no problem whatsoever. And you refuse to even attempt to further support your claim with scripture that is actually within context?

    Why are you against showing or guiding others to the truth when they honestly ask you? If it is truth and you are right and as a Christian to help others then why not do it. What do you fear if what you say is true?

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    In your dreams you refuted anything. You have a very silly denominational idea of what salvation is and you are stumbling around like a blind man at noon. You have obviously followed blind guides and now you are facing the bitter fruits of serious doubts. You have not furnished yourself with the armour of Elohim, because you have no right to wear it. Don't try and put the onus of responsibility on me for your dilemma.

    I don't fear anything and neither do I give that which is holy to dogs. I have cast pearls before swine and sure enough you turn to tear away at me. You have no love of the truth and your delusion is obvious.

    I have no further time for your childish accusations and attempts at manipulating me.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faither View Post
    Truster , lets cut to the chase , enough about truth.

    If you are "in Christ" , then you have the Spirit of Christ. If you have the Spirit of Christ , then you have the "Mind of Christ."

    The Scriptures tell us what happens and what having the Spirit of Christ is like. But, it doesn't tell us what it's like to have the "Mind of Christ." You have to have the experience .

    So tell me , What happened when you received the Mind of Christ and what is it like?

    Prove your do nothing Faith works.
    I have nothing that needs proving. Why should I? What I have is genuine and my proving it to you is pointless. You cannot benefit from what I have. As you said it's necessary to have the experience. As Messiah said, "you must be born above".
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I have nothing that needs proving. Why should I? What I have is genuine and my proving it to you is pointless. You cannot benefit from what I have. As you said it's necessary to have the experience. As Messiah said, "you must be born above".
    Surprise me , send me a pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I have nothing that needs proving. Why should I? What I have is genuine and my proving it to you is pointless. You cannot benefit from what I have. As you said it's necessary to have the experience. As Messiah said, "you must be born above".
    I gave you a glimpse of Christ in the other thread. Thats your wake up call , don't take it lightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Luke 5:32

    Sinners are called to repentance. Which proves that repentance is not available to man as a right or ability.
    All are sinners and all are called to repent---by the written Word of God.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spockrates View Post
    Yes, as in what you say might very well be the truth and nothing but the truth, but not quite the whole truth. Keep in mind that I don't know if my opinion about this is true. I just see it might be a possibility. I've often found after exploring what appears to be two opposing ideas that they actually are not at odds with one another, but focus on different aspects of a truth. Have you ever discovered the same?


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    It would of been better if you would have kept your insult to yourself anyway.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    I would like to make it clear that truster just accepted my apology in pm.
    You are taking this to another level of wrongness, in my humble opinion.

    Truster spoke untruths about Acts 13:48---no matter what translation he uses.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spockrates View Post
    Yeah, no. I mean, I agree it's illogical to fear what I've already decided to do, but that's not the fear I'm talking about. The fear occurs during the temptation, before the decision is made to sin or not to sin. At that moment, before the decision, I fear (as the pirate First Mate Silver chose for a vital task from my illustration) letting God down.

    A soldier might fear the same before deciding to giving in to the temptation to give in to cowardice before the decision to commit a cowardly act is made. She might fear letting her commanding officer down.


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    Just believe exactly what the Bible plainly says. The Bible says fear God. The Bible says God is going to put His wrath on those who destroy the world with their sin. Paul says may a curse be on those who don't love the Lord. Jude says snatch people from the fire. Why think of disappointing God when you have your heart set on pleasing Him?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You are taking this to another level of wrongness, in my humble opinion.

    Truster spoke untruths about Acts 13:48---not matter what translation he uses.
    I made too many accusations to him. I feel ashamed of myself.

    I did not give him the benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    We have no such capacity. It man did, then man wouldn't need to be rescued.

    Psalm 2 is the verse you want.
    Jesus died to reconcile us to God. That happens when Jesus lives inside us and we live in him. There is no scripture anywhere that says no one can believe and obey God after learning of Him. Our faith comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:17. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    I made too many accusations to him. I feel ashamed of myself.

    I did not give him the benefit of the doubt.
    He is wrong what he said about that scripture anyway. He has a rare translation and you were right to be suspicious about Truster changing the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    We have no such capacity. It man did, then man wouldn't need to be rescued.

    Psalm 2 is the verse you want.
    No scripture anywhere says we cannot hear the gospel, do what the Lord says, and be saved. It is the powerful words of God that saves us just like He says He will, and He tells us what to do to get saved.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    He is wrong what he said about that scripture anyway. He has a rare translation and you were right to be suspicious about Truster changing the word.
    I don't agree with some of his claim. But I know he is sincere in his faith. That counts a lot.

    I don't agree with you and LA and some other Christians here but I don't fight against them because they are sincere in their faith. They are not a playing Christians..

    I only speak against who blindly follow their church and ostracize other Christians as cult, non-believers and unsaved. They misrepresent Jesus to the world.

    their Lord is not Jesus, it is their church and their denomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Why would sinners be told to do a thing that is outside of their capacity to perform in your opinion?

    peace
    It wouldn't be right, would it? But, man will go to great lengths to defend a given doctrine. Beware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    It wouldn't be right, would it? But, man will go to great lengths to defend a given doctrine. Beware.
    Strange, you seem to be doing the same as your MADism.

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