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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Acts 13:48New International Version (NIV)

    48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.


    Ok, I have to apologize to truster. It is the same.

    However, this verse is so vague. I don't believe how truster is reading is out of context with Jesus' word.

    that's why I don't believe everything what is being said because it is not clear.
    That's because you don't trust most of what scripture says, Meshak.
    You have no faith in the word of GOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    In this case the words are interchangable.

    I do agree that he mis-defines the term repent or repentant or repentance.
    They trusted God for what? I am suspicious why he changes the word. I believe the Bible and I can find no translation that says 'trust'.

    So again, trusted God for what? Why not they believed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    They trusted God for what? I am suspicious why he changes the word. I believe the Bible and I can find no translation that says 'trust'.

    So again, trusted God for what? Why not they believed?
    I showed scripture showing what I was trying to say.

    To trust in GOD is to have faith in GOD is to believe in GOD.

    But in actuality there seems to be a difference in the minds of many about what scripture means when it says believe. To beleive is to be devout, to me. I stand by my words friend; the two are interchangable.

    I cannot speak for the motives or spirit of "truster". I will not continually assume to know their faith. When they post it will be known.

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    what do you say about my reply to you, pops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    what do you say about my reply to you, pops?
    Please excuse my confusion, but which one are you referring to?

    I will say your zeal and ability to spot bias within self is admirable.

    I am glad we are in agreement on the interchangability of the words in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Please excuse my confusion, but which one are you referring to?
    Post #253

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    I showed scripture showing what I was trying to say.

    To trust in GOD is to have faith in GOD is to believe in GOD.

    But in actuality there seems to be a difference in the minds of many about what scripture means when it says believe. To beleive is to be devout, to me. I stand by my words friend; the two are interchangable.

    I cannot speak for the motives or spirit of "truster". I will not continually assume to know their faith. When they post it will be known.

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    I stand by the word not being changed. I am doing some reading on Herb Yahn and the Bible he wrote. I think it is damaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
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    I would humbly suggest that you address towards the one you are actively debating in hopes that we can all move everything forward with profitable discussion rather than idle degradation of fellow believers.

    As I attempted to say already; your ability to use introspection and retrospect coupled with your lack of pride are telling. It takes a humble person to go back upon noticing their own error, and attempt to make it right. There is a spirit that can teach and learn, and there is a hard cold spiteful spirit that can only contend and devour.

    I would be willing to bet you are the former and not the latter; and I don't really bet, soooo.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I stand by the word not being changed. I am doing some reading on Herb Yahn and the Bible he wrote. I think it is damaging.
    Interesting. Perhaps you could pm me a link to what reference you have located if it is as you say.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    I would humbly suggest that you address towards the one you are actively debating in hopes that we can all move everything forward with profitable discussion rather than idle degradation of fellow believers.
    I am talking about how that verse is vague. do you think that verse is clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    I am talking about how that verse is vague. do you think that verse is clear?
    It is speaking to the fact that the deciever is the instiller of doubt.
    That is to say the message of you cannot sin not due to your inhearant nature is a lie.

    The message of the Christ is that of utter faithfulness in the Word of GOD. It fills the vessel with light making it a receptical or beacon for all. If your doubt....All of it was removed, that you wholly believed and trusted in the promise of GOD; that you are of GOD and as such, have every bit of potential exemplified by the anointed of GOD, would you not be joyous? How could one falter being on such a foundation as decreed before Time by GOD almighty?

    It shows that doubt is wrong and not of true faith. It says the Christ's work was for the sake of all and effectual towards the salvation of all. It testifies to the fact that shame worketh repentance, as faithfulness in the Word of GOD worketh joy regardless of trials.

    Sorry; went a little past what I meant to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Interesting. Perhaps you could pm me a link to what reference you have located if it is as you say.

    Thank you.

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    All I know is that understanding comes from Jesus and he gives understanding to those who obey Him.

    Truster has no understanding of the scriptures and he speaks horribly to most all. If this Bible he uses teaches him things differently, I am not sure.

    I am reading some scriptures from the Herb Yahn Bible and I was disappointed with one of the scriptures so far. I haven't had a chance yet to read more. In addition, Truster has Calvinistic beliefs and I am not sure if Herb Yahn was too. It might have led Truster to believe as Herb Yahn does? I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    All I know is that understanding comes from Jesus and he gives understanding to those who obey Him.

    Truster has no understanding of the scriptures and he speaks horribly to most all. If this Bible he uses teaches him things differently, I am not sure.

    I am reading some scriptures from the Herb Yahn Bible and I was disappointed with one of the scriptures.
    I am very curious to read this particular verse. Could you post it here within context please?

    Please excuse the confusion. What did you mean by scriptures. You were speaking of only the bible right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    I am very curious to read this particular verse. Could you post it here within context please?
    Herb Yahn:
    Proverbs 3:5 Confide in Yah Veh with all your heart and lean not to your own discernment: in all your ways know him and he straightens your paths.

    King James 2000 Bible
    Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not unto your own understanding.In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    It is speaking to the fact that the deciever is the instiller of doubt.
    That is to say the message of you cannot sin not due to your inhearant nature is a lie.

    The message of the Christ is that of utter faithfulness in the Word of GOD. It fills the vessel with light making it a receptical or beacon for all. If your doubt....All of it was removed, that you wholly believed and trusted in the promise of GOD; that you are of GOD and as such, have every bit of potential exemplified by the anointed of GOD, would you not be joyous? How could one falter being on such a foundation as decreed before Time by GOD almighty?

    It shows that doubt is wrong and not of true faith. It says the Christ's work was for the sake of all and effectual towards the salvation of all. It testifies to the fact that shame worketh repentance, as faithfulness in the Word of GOD worketh joy regardless of trials.

    Sorry; went a little past what I meant to.

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    You get all that from one verse?

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