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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Your negative hateful way of speaking means you obviously do not care about God at all.
    No Comment necessary.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    There is something strange about all your non stop questions.
    Yeah, I get a lot of that. The thing is, I don't have many answers, so questions seem the best way to go. You know? I've found that when people stick with me and do their best to forget debate and search for the words to answer, we're both better off in the end.

    I'm better off, because I get the answers I seek and see I have no more reason to wonder why they believe. They're better off because their faith is strengthened, for they know better why they believe, too. They also get a deserved rest from the constant debate that infects forums like these and sometimes even enjoy the lost art of discussion, since it's kind of hard to argue with someone who isn't really trying to convince anyone but himself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    Before i knew God, i was a completely different person, i loved drinking and socialising, i loved the things of the world and building up in it, my heart he was full of wrong things, I'd hold grudges, i could be spiteful, i could backbite, I'd be envious. Etc. And even though i said that i believed in God, i still had these things in me, i wasn't a nice person but i thought? i was fine,. I couldn't see myself for what i was really like. I had an uncle who was a strong man of God, and he would teach me and live it out on front of me, but I'd still carrying on living my life to please me, i was a disgrace.

    Then i started going to our little house meetings, that my uncle went to, and they taught us to turn away from doing wrong, obey Gods commandments and do what's right before him, they said that if i had faith and truly believed in God and Christ, that God would strengthen me to overcome. So i started going with my husband more often to our house meetings, and God's people there would help me and strengthen me until i got it for myself, and i started to try and obey God and turn away from the things i did wrong, i couldn't do it in my own, but eventually i did start to overcome them, i started feeling this strength and power from within that would help me to stop doing what i was about to do, my conscience was getting stronger and i knew then the this was the Holy Spirit. I also started to understand things in the Bible that i couldn't understand before, and God was giving me a mouth to speak. It was like standing in a dark room and the day starting to dawn and i started to see, not only the things of God, but the dirt that was inside my heart also.

    My whole life changed upside down, all the things that meant so much to me left me, the devil's that had a hold of me were going, i was able to turn from doing wrong, and any wrong thoughts that were coming into my mind, i was nipping them in the bud and before they could get worse and grow. I know that Christ by the Spirit was helping me to overcome. As i said, I'm a totally different person now, I've never felt peace like i do now, God is amazing and by his grace I'm saved from my old Life and I'm dead to it, and I'm born again to a new life in God, and through Christ Jesus I'm being saved daily and I'm being helped to overcome and i die daily so that Christ can live through me!
    The Almighty is obviously in your debt.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Which proves you have no understanding of what religion means. It doesn't mean denomination.
    I'm not of any religion truster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    I'm not of any religion truster!
    Having read your testimony you have the most vile and despicable religions. Self justifying.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spockrates View Post
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    I'm afraid you're getting into some deep waters, here. So before you swim out too far ahead of me, please pause and tread water for a moment, so I can catch my breath! After that you can lead me to the depths of Luke 6.

    I asked what the words, "God is love" mean. You see, I think of love as a feeling, or perhaps an action. So when John tells me God is love, I ask him, "Are you saying, John the love I feel is God? Are you saying God is a feeling?"

    Well, John's epistle really can't answer my question. Every time I ask, it simply repeats, "God is love" and never explains what John meant.

    So I did as you said and asked God what John meant, and He didn't tell me, but He did compel me to do as you recommended and ask His people, which is why I'm asking you.

    Let me then be sure I understand you. Are you saying this?

    God is love means God is only good.

    Or do you think John's words mean something else?








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    Quote Originally Posted by Spockrates View Post
    Yeah, I get a lot of that. The thing is, I don't have many answers, so questions seem the best way to go. You know? I've found that when people stick with me and do their best to forget debate and search for the words to answer, we're both better off in the end. I'm better off, because I get the answers I seek and see I have no more reason to wonder why they believe. They're better off because they're faith is strengthened, for they know better why they believe, too.


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    I don't agree with you on any of that.

    I just don't play games.

    You are playing games and should be seeking to find answers from God.

    God reveals Himself to those who obey him.

    John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Having read your testimony you have the most vile and despicable religions. Self justifying.
    I'm not really bothered what you think of me, i don't believe anyone who teaches that we don't have to obey God. Your in a false church and you follow a false religion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I don't agree with you on any of that.

    I just don't play games.

    You are playing games and should be seeking to find answers from God.

    God reveals Himself to those who obey him.

    John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."
    Actually He doesn't reveal Himself to those that obey Him. Those He reveals His grace in and to then walk in obedience. Your form of vile religion puts the Almighty in your debt.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    Do you have children?
    Two sons. One studying Computer Science at Perdue University and one a recovering addict living in our home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    The Almighty is obviously in your debt.
    No I'm forever in his, because without God and Christ is still be dead in my sins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Actually He doesn't reveal Himself to those that obey Him. Those He reveals His grace in and to then walk in obedience. Your form of vile religion puts the Almighty in your debt.
    You are not speaking what the Bible says. Look at the scripture. Jesus says plainly that the one who obeys, he will love and reveal himself.

    John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I don't agree with you on any of that.

    I just don't play games.

    You are playing games and should be seeking to find answers from God.

    God reveals Himself to those who obey him.

    John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."
    Not sure what you mean. Are you saying I'm disobeying by asking questions? Or are you saying it's not wrong to ask, but I'm not sincere about finding the truth? Or are you saying something else?


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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    I'm not really bothered what you think of me, i don't believe anyone who teaches that we don't have to obey God. Your in a false church and you follow a false religion!
    Your use the word church in the context you have chosen also means you haven't got a clue as to the meaning of church. It appears 80 times in scripture and it pleased the Holy Spirit to use it, but you have no idea what is in the Mind of the Spirit when He conveyed this to us. You read the Bible, but there are more blanks on the pages than words.

    church church church church church church church church church church over and over again without any comprehension. When I see the word church it opens up the knowledge of what it means and what it meant to those that first heard the word. The word they heard was actually ecclesia and not |"church".
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spockrates View Post
    Not sure what you mean. Are you saying I'm disobeying by asking questions? Or are you saying it's not wrong to ask, but I'm not sincere about finding the truth? Or are you saying something else?


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