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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidK View Post
    Isn't corn already subsidized in the US? I thought that was a big part of what makes our food so much cheaper here than in the rest of the world.

    Why are we still putting corn into our gas tanks when evidence says that it isn't actually doing anything useful?
    That's part of the problem. Third world countries cannot sell us food products because they can't compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidK View Post
    Why are we still putting corn into our gas tanks when evidence says that it isn't actually doing anything useful?
    Because.. liberals hate fossil fuels?(note, a lot of "good things" listed about ethanol there, are a lie like this:

    Is it good for my engine?

    Not only does ethanol fuel the car you already have – it keeps your engine clean, reduces tailpipe emissions, and at the right blend can even increase mileage. E10 works in small engines like lawn mowers, too, and will even help make your boat more environmentally friendly
    Its been proven that ethanol is bad for engines, not good and it even voids the warrantee on many small engines in lawnmowers for example and people are told now to add additives to the gas, so the ethanol wont hurt the mower.

    Conclusion: Truth doesn't matter to green liberals so its ok if you ruin your engine, corn is needed for fuel rather than fossil fuel anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Because.. liberals hate fossil fuels?(note, a lot of "good things" listed about ethanol there, are a lie like this:

    Its been proven that ethanol is bad for engines, not good and it even voids the warrantee on many small engines in lawnmowers for example and people are told now to add additives to the gas, so the ethanol wont hurt the mower.
    Ethanol definitely started off as a liberal environmentalist thing, but I got the impression they dropped support once it became clear that it was actually more harmful to the environment. Isn't it the midwest corn producing states that are the reason we're still pouring corn into our tanks? A quick google search came up with Chuck Grassley (Republican Senator, Iowa) as a champion of ethanol. It also turned up Carl Icahn, a billionaire refinery owner and Trump adviser, Tom Vilsack, agriculture secretary under Obama, and of course, John Dogget, National Corn Growers Association executive vice president.

    Plenty of blame to spread around.
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    My original post wasn't exactly clear about the solution. By prices falling then the producers vacate the market which reduces supply and balances the market while leaving starving millions hungry. This is the Achilles heel of capitalism. Resources flow to the production of profitable goods which is not necessarily the most desirable goods. By way of example investing in a luxury yacht factory makes good sense rather than investing in a bread factory when people are starving as purchasing power becomes more and more concentrated in the hands of fewer people.

    Have you noticed that the shelf space for loaves of bread has shrunk at your local grocery while the cookie aisle has exploded in pricey items? Let them eat cake.

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    Remove capitalism and you have no bread on the shelves at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Remove capitalism and you have no bread on the shelves at all.
    yep, see Venezuela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eeset View Post
    My original post wasn't exactly clear about the solution. By prices falling then the producers vacate the market which reduces supply and balances the market while leaving starving millions hungry. This is the Achilles heel of capitalism. Resources flow to the production of profitable goods which is not necessarily the most desirable goods. By way of example investing in a luxury yacht factory makes good sense rather than investing in a bread factory when people are starving as purchasing power becomes more and more concentrated in the hands of fewer people.

    Have you noticed that the shelf space for loaves of bread has shrunk at your local grocery while the cookie aisle has exploded in pricey items? Let them eat cake.
    How about answering my question, what is your solution to get food past the corrupt leaders, because thats the real problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I think the familiar name is greed. Back in old China, the people starved while the rulers were were fat and draped in expensive silks.
    Greed is the fuel that drives capitalism.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Greed is the fuel that drives capitalism.
    And in that form, greed is very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    And in that form, greed is very good.
    I'm not saying that it's necessarily bad. Just that it must be modulated.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    No argument there. Just keep lobbyists away that make deals to take it easy on the regs in return for campaign contributions.

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    If you are going to regulate, make sure you doing it evenly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Greed is the fuel that drives capitalism.
    All men are entitled to make a profit so they can provide a home and food for their families. They certainly don't have to be greedy to do that.

    That said, even socialism is fueled by greed because there are always some higher up that have bad motives, and end up with it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    All men are entitled to make a profit so they can provide a home and food for their families. They certainly don't have to be greedy to do that.

    That said, even socialism is fueled by greed because there are always some higher up that have bad motives, and end up with it all.
    Their greed ends up stealing all money in sight to where people kill dogs with bats to get food.

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