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    You can't sign contracts under false pretenses. And fine print is just that. He will be getting 10 figures, unless he lets it go. I don't want United share holders to lose because United sucks as an airline. So does Continental whom they merged with. So does Delta. Delta consumed Northwest. Before the recent mergers, they were all better because they had to compete. Like socialism, this is what happens when there is no competition. I only fly because I have to fly. Like crossing an ocean. It is a bad deal with bad service and a lot of bad employees. This pitiful seat is from Delta, for the record. United is no better. I am not tall. I am 6'2.5 barefoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    The flight was from Chicago to Louisville? In the amount of time it takes to take off, fly there, and disembark, those 4 employees probably could have just taken a car.
    I have done that for my own reasons. Most of the waste in the DoD is actually administrative failures by incompetent people. I had a layover of 8 hours in Indianapolis, which is 3. hours from my house. So you tax payers paid for a seat I didn't use. This was 2012. I rented a car and drove home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    He loved it. Probably had an orgasm when he was gettin pulled by the officers. Good on him the little perv.
    Um, what? That's a *ahem* strange thing to think about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Awful planning.
    Yes. Typical of Americans that just don't have any analytical skills. They look right at information and draw the wrong conclusions.
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    As far as I can tell, there are two issues here:
    1. Overbooking, and taking people off of flights. It is apparently legal, though it can be pretty bad for the passengers that lose their seat. By the way- I have only seen this in the USA. Even offering people money to give up their seats- I don't recall ever seeing that in Asia
    2. Forcibly removing the passenger and injuring him. This was a horrible thing to do- but as far as I can tell, United Airlines didn't do it. The airport security people did this. I do not understand why United is getting all the flak here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    As far as I can tell, there are two issues here:
    1. Overbooking, and taking people off of flights. It is apparently legal, though it can be pretty bad for the passengers that lose their seat.
    Actually once boarded, they are to volunteer. Not be dragged off, the time for denied boarding, is before boarding. They also werent overbooked, so their "rules" mean squat.



    2. Forcibly removing the passenger and injuring him. This was a horrible thing to do- but as far as I can tell, United Airlines didn't do it. The airport security people did this. I do not understand why United is getting all the flak here.
    They had it done, under false pretenses, claiming the man to be disruptive and beligerant (which poses danger to others) that was a lie. He was never neither.

    They have a real problem on their hand.

    Also the 800 they offered people to leave? Wasnt even in cash, it was for united vouchers, they were being greedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Actually once boarded, they are to volunteer. Not be dragged off, the time for denied boarding, is before boarding. They also werent overbooked, so their "rules" mean squat.



    They had it done, under false pretenses, claiming the man to be disruptive and beligerant (which poses danger to others) that was a lie. He was never neither.

    They have a real problem on their hand.

    Also the 800 they offered people to leave? Wasnt even in cash, it was for united vouchers, they were being greedy.
    Who dragged the victim off the plane? Who injured him? Unites Airlines crew, or airport security?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Who dragged the victim off the plane? Who injured him? Unites Airlines crew, or airport security?
    It doesnt matter, both are culpable, the airline lied and said the man was beligerant and disruptive. That was a lie.

    Do people not go to jail in your world when they make false police reports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    It doesnt matter, both are culpable, the airline lied and said the man was beligerant and disruptive. That was a lie.

    Do people not go to jail in your world when they make false police reports?
    I do not know what the real facts are, and I don't think you do either. If the courts sort things out, and sees fit to put United personnel in prison for false police reports-so be it. I suspect that is a rare occurrence in the US.

    The only thing that seems clear to me is that the security people, who are not United employees, used excessive force. Call it police brutality, if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    I do not know what the real facts are, and I don't think you do either. If the courts sort things out, and sees fit to put United personnel in prison for false police reports-so be it. I suspect that is a rare occurrence in the US.

    The only thing that seems clear to me is that the security people, who are not United employees, used excessive force. Call it police brutality, if you like.
    yes, they did, but not if they believed the man was dangerous, through the lie told by the airline. They dont know what happened before they got there, and they were told he was distuptive and beligerant, and that puts people in danger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    yes, they did, but not if they believed the man was dangerous, through the lie told by the airline. They dont know what happened before they got there, and they were told he was distuptive and beligerant, and that puts people in danger.
    Wait and see. I think you hate the airline, and won't accept the idea that anybody else is at fault here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Wait and see. I think you hate the airline, and won't accept the idea that anybody else is at fault here.
    I said the cops were at fault too, did you miss that? But the airline caused it, they lied to the police about what was happening.
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    I heard an interesting interview about how game theory can be used for these scenarios. Here is a link.
    http://www.npr.org/2017/04/13/523726...irline-booking

    Some key points:


    Don't let passengers board the plane and then take their seats away. And if you do, offer them a lot more money.

    Don't make the offer in such a public way, because nobody wants to be a sucker.

    Make better use of technology and start with a big offer.

    Use the information you get from the game to make better choices about who you bump off a flight.


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    take all passengers' recording devices away and use tasers

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