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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Sending nukes into Mecca is something you support? Or executing gays?
    Sending nukes somewhere may very well be necessary.

    I certainly don't support executing gays.


    Those are two totally different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Sending nukes somewhere may very well be necessary.
    On what reasoning? Sending a nuke attack into Mecca is completely unjustified and out of curiosity, have you ever seen "Threads"? Or even "The Day After"? Nuclear war is insane. the MAD acronym is so apt.

    I certainly don't support executing gays.
    Fair enough on that, I didn't think that you did along with GM although the fact remains, plenty of your far right brethren do.

    Those are two totally different things.
    Sure they are although they're both extreme positions and ones that no moderate or rational person would advocate.
    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Depends on which sect of Muslims they happen to be. Or maybe they just want freedom for everyone. Something like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Let's hear some examples.
    Shiites are abused in Saudi Arabia and many other Sunni-majority areas. Sunnis are abused in Iran and many other Shiite-majority areas. Many Muslims are abused in areas of India. Burma is abusing their Muslim minority. Everyone abuses Sufis.

    Alevis in Turkey are now facing discrimination against them by the Sunni leadership under Erdogan.

    In the U.S., American Muslims are slightly less likely than Americans in general to advocate violence as a legitimate religious, social or poltical tactic.

    In fact, Pew found that not only are Muslim-Americans increasingly anxious about Islamic extremism, they are also more likely than other Americans to say that violence can never be justified.
    More than 8 in 10 American Muslims said they were at least somewhat concerned about global extremism in the name of Islam, a 10 percentage point increase from 2011, when Pew conducted a similar study.
    Nearly 3 in 4 said there is little if any support for extremism among American Muslims. Just 6% said there is a great deal of support for it, and 11% said there is a "fair amount."
    Likewise, more than 75% of American Muslims say violence can never be justified to further a religious, social or political cause. That's compared to 59% of Americans overall who said the same.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/pew...vey/index.html

    So in that respect, at least, they are slightly more American than the average American. Keep in mind, American Muslims are not necessarily representative of all Muslims in the world. Many of them grew up here, accepting our culture of law and freedom, and others came here specifically because of that culture.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

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    Shiites are abused in Saudi Arabia and many other Sunni-majority areas.

    [quote]For what?

    Sunnis are abused in Iran and many other Shiite-majority areas.
    For what?

    Many Muslims are abused in areas of India. Burma is abusing their Muslim minority. Everyone abuses Sufis.
    For what. for what, for what?

    Alevis in Turkey are now facing discrimination against them by the Sunni leadership under Erdogan.
    For what?

    God Bless America

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    For what?

    For what?

    For what. for what, for what?

    For what?
    Pretty much for the same reasons evil people everywhere abuse people of faith.

    They want to force them to believe what they believe. Why do you think persecuted Muslims came to this country? Same reason my ancestors (and probably yours too) came to this country.

    That's why American Muslims are less supportive of violence as a means of social, political, or religious change then most Americans are.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Sending nukes somewhere may very well be necessary.

    I certainly don't support executing gays.


    Those are two totally different things.
    I don't think you understand what nukes would do to the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Jennings View Post
    I don't think you understand what nukes would do to the world
    You're right about that. I'd settle for much less.

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