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    He shall save His people from their sins

    The angel who appeared to Joseph said concerning Jesus, "...thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins," Matthew 1:21. Jesus never made a mistake of converting a soul and leaving it under the power of sin. Those who are converted cease to wilfully sin, ie to break God's commandments since sin is defined as "the transgression of the law" - 1John 3:4. The children of God are not saved by their obedience but rather the obedience is the fruit of their new life. Our fruits are our words and deeds.

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    He justifies them from the debt of sin, and that is a huge motivation to shed the interests of sin, but people will still sin.

    This passage and its quote show that Matthew knew early that the mission of Christ was this one Gospel, and that while recollecting what to write, he knew that all of them knew the death of Christ was going to do just that early in the ministry. It is set ups like this which bear out the truly human dilemma which we now call 'denial'. We find it in the middle of the synoptics: after confessing that Jesus is the Christ, Peter tries to 'control' Christ and tell him he can't die. Even though he knew all along, unlike the delusion of 2P2P which wants there to be another gospel in (at least) the first half of the synoptics (it doesn't work out in John at all).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    This passage and its quote show that Matthew knew early that the mission of Christ was this one Gospel, and that while recollecting what to write, he knew that all of them knew the death of Christ was going to do just that early in the ministry. It is set ups like this which bear out the truly human dilemma which we now call 'denial'. We find it in the middle of the synoptics: after confessing that Jesus is the Christ, Peter tries to 'control' Christ and tell him he can't die. Even though he knew all along, unlike the delusion of 2P2P which wants there to be another gospel in (at least) the first half of the synoptics (it doesn't work out in John at all).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeAngels View Post
    The angel who appeared to Joseph said concerning Jesus, "...thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins," Matthew 1:21. Jesus never made a mistake of converting a soul and leaving it under the power of sin. Those who are converted cease to wilfully sin, ie to break God's commandments since sin is defined as "the transgression of the law" - 1John 3:4. The children of God are not saved by their obedience but rather the obedience is the fruit of their new life. Our fruits are our words and deeds.
    Whose His People that He shall save from their sins ?
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Whose His People that He shall save from their sins ?
    More distinctly, what sins was this Jesus going to save said people from, that He was to be called JESUS; to begin with?

    Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeAngels View Post
    The angel who appeared to Joseph said concerning Jesus, "...thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins," Matthew 1:21. Jesus never made a mistake of converting a soul and leaving it under the power of sin. Those who are converted cease to wilfully sin, ie to break God's commandments since sin is defined as "the transgression of the law" - 1John 3:4. The children of God are not saved by their obedience but rather the obedience is the fruit of their new life. Our fruits are our words and deeds.
    Nobody obeys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    More distinctly, what sins was this Jesus going to save said people from, that He was to be called JESUS; to begin with?

    Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Nobody obeys
    All who are truly God's children obey, as all the redeemed have ever done. The apostle says, "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him..." 1Jn 3:24. Satan's argument is precisely this, that it is impossible to obey God's commandments and that is why man fell. Since the fall of Adam to our time God has ever had His witnesses on the earth who obey Him and thus prove that, "... the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good," Romans 7:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Whose His People that He shall save from their sins ?
    His people are those who exercise repentance toward God and faith toward Jesus. Not even the infinite power of God can save sinners who reject the sacrifice of His Son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeAngels View Post
    His people are those who exercise repentance toward God and faith toward Jesus. Not even the infinite power of God can save sinners who reject the sacrifice of His Son.
    In the context of Matthew, "His people" is Israel.
    turbosixx says "Yep. Pentecost was the first time men heard the gospel."
    When corrected, turbsixx says "diversion tactic"
    turbosixx is dishonest.


    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    In the context of Matthew, "His people" is Israel.
    Too simple, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Too simple, isn't it?
    Simple... like rocket surgery.
    turbosixx says "Yep. Pentecost was the first time men heard the gospel."
    When corrected, turbsixx says "diversion tactic"
    turbosixx is dishonest.


    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeAngels View Post
    His people are those who exercise repentance toward God and faith toward Jesus. Not even the infinite power of God can save sinners who reject the sacrifice of His Son.
    Blasphemy !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    In the context of Matthew, "His people" is Israel.
    The physical descendants of Abraham Israel are not the Children of God Rom 9:8
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeAngels View Post
    The apostle says, "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him..." 1Jn 3:24.
    And another apostle - our apostle - said the believer is dead to the Law.

    Is it possible that either John's use of "commandments" means something other than the Law . . . or . . . it does mean the Law but he was speaking to an audience that would be specially enabled to abide in the Law, while Paul was talking to another group that was dead to it?
    Not a single cluster of living fruit was, or ever will be, harvested from the tree of legality. Law can only produce “dead works,” from which we need to have conscience purged just as much as from “wicked works.”

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