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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post you think the trinitarian perception is needed for salvation?

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    Hi and 1 Cor 12:3 should settle the issue as no one calls Jesus LORD , except by the Holy Spirit !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and 1 Cor 12:3 should settle the issue as no one calls Jesus LORD , except by the Holy Spirit !!

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    Right, Paul is comparing two ideas: One who has God and one who has some other idol than God. The latter without God, can say all kinds of things against the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone, Paul's argument continues, who knows the real and only God, will not only not say anything negative about the Lord Jesus Christ, they will know Him clearly as Lord of their own lives.

    How does this apply to Arian and Unitarian thought? Anyone who believes Jesus is their Lord, will ALSO listen to and be instructed as Lord of their lives, by Him. Whatever He then says, goes.

    If He claims to be God John 10:33, then whoever He is Lord over, will be Lorded over accordingly. Those whom He is not Lord, will not accept Him as such. The point? It very much can be a salvation issue. Those who know Him as Lord are Lorded over by Him and His instructions over this matter. Those who are their own lords will decide for themselves who He is or even who 'god' is in their lives because they are lording their own lives as best as they see fit. 2 Corinthians 5:17
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