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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Oh...so you think the trinitarian perception is needed for salvation?

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    Hi and 1 Cor 12:3 should settle the issue as no one calls Jesus LORD , except by the Holy Spirit !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and 1 Cor 12:3 should settle the issue as no one calls Jesus LORD , except by the Holy Spirit !!

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    Right, Paul is comparing two ideas: One who has God and one who has some other idol than God. The latter without God, can say all kinds of things against the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone, Paul's argument continues, who knows the real and only God, will not only not say anything negative about the Lord Jesus Christ, they will know Him clearly as Lord of their own lives.

    How does this apply to Arian and Unitarian thought? Anyone who believes Jesus is their Lord, will ALSO listen to and be instructed as Lord of their lives, by Him. Whatever He then says, goes.

    If He claims to be God John 10:33, then whoever He is Lord over, will be Lorded over accordingly. Those whom He is not Lord, will not accept Him as such. The point? It very much can be a salvation issue. Those who know Him as Lord are Lorded over by Him and His instructions over this matter. Those who are their own lords will decide for themselves who He is or even who 'god' is in their lives because they are lording their own lives as best as they see fit. 2 Corinthians 5:17
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and 1 Cor 12:3 should settle the issue as no one calls Jesus LORD , except by the Holy Spirit !!

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    Where does the bible say you have to believe in the trinity to be saved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and 1 Cor 12:3 should settle the issue as no one calls Jesus LORD , except by the Holy Spirit !!

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    How does that answer my question.

    Do you think one must be trinitarian to have the Holy Spirit communicate with, or dwell within their heart?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Right, Paul is comparing two ideas: One who has God and one who has some other idol than God. The latter without God, can say all kinds of things against the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone, Paul's argument continues, who knows the real and only God, will not only not say anything negative about the Lord Jesus Christ, they will know Him clearly as Lord of their own lives.

    How does this apply to Arian and Unitarian thought? Anyone who believes Jesus is their Lord, will ALSO listen to and be instructed as Lord of their lives, by Him. Whatever He then says, goes.

    If He claims to be God John 10:33, then whoever He is Lord over, will be Lorded over accordingly. Those whom He is not Lord, will not accept Him as such. The point? It very much can be a salvation issue. Those who know Him as Lord are Lorded over by Him and His instructions over this matter. Those who are their own lords will decide for themselves who He is or even who 'god' is in their lives because they are lording their own lives as best as they see fit. 2 Corinthians 5:17
    where does the Bible say that you have to believe in the trinity to be a Christian or saved?

    This questions for all trinity believers.

    You and I know the answer, and you are spreading a false gospel to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Right, Paul is comparing two ideas: One who has God and one who has some other idol than God. The latter without God, can say all kinds of things against the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone, Paul's argument continues, who knows the real and only God, will not only not say anything negative about the Lord Jesus Christ, they will know Him clearly as Lord of their own lives.

    How does this apply to Arian and Unitarian thought? Anyone who believes Jesus is their Lord, will ALSO listen to and be instructed as Lord of their lives, by Him. Whatever He then says, goes.

    If He claims to be God John 10:33, then whoever He is Lord over, will be Lorded over accordingly. Those whom He is not Lord, will not accept Him as such. The point? It very much can be a salvation issue. Those who know Him as Lord are Lorded over by Him and His instructions over this matter. Those who are their own lords will decide for themselves who He is or even who 'god' is in their lives because they are lording their own lives as best as they see fit. 2 Corinthians 5:17
    Are you saying that unitarians are in danger?

    You know Lord/ King is a reference to Man made in the image of GOD, reflecting the Light of GOD through the Word of GOD, right. Man is not to be conflated with GOD almighty. Though to the Word of GOD and Spirit of GOD that guide and fill the vessel of man is indeed GOD, yet still surely not the literal fullness there of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    where does the Bible say that you have to believe in the trinity to be a Christian or saved?
    salvation only comes through faith in Christ

    if your faith is in a false Christ, you won't be saved

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    salvation only comes through faith in Christ

    if your faith is in a false Christ, you won't be saved
    I'm glad you don't say it comes from faith in the trinity doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    salvation only comes through faith in Christ

    if your faith is in a false Christ, you won't be saved
    So?

    what's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    So?

    what's your point?
    do you believe the following is true?

    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    salvation only comes through faith in Christ

    if your faith is in a false Christ, you won't be saved

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    do you believe the following is true?
    False gospel is; you add your own condition of salvation which trin churches are doing.

    Trin churches are spreading lie of condition of salvation by claiming you are not a Christian if you don't believe in the trinity.

    All you are doing is just that, spreading a false gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    False gospel is; you add your own condition of salvation which trin churches are doing.

    Trin churches are spreading lie of condition of salvation by claiming you are not a Christian if you don't believe in the trinity.

    All you are doing is just that, spreading a false gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    False gospel is; you add your own condition of salvation which trin churches are doing.

    Trin churches are spreading lie of condition of salvation by claiming you are not a Christian if you don't believe in the trinity.

    All you are doing is just that, spreading a false gospel.


    simple question, deserving of a simple answer:

    do you believe the following is true?

    Quote Originally Posted by dozer
    salvation only comes through faith in Christ

    if your faith is in a false Christ, you won't be saved

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Are you saying that unitarians are in danger?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    How does this apply to Arian and Unitarian thought? Anyone who believes Jesus is their Lord, will ALSO listen to and be instructed as Lord of their lives, by Him. Whatever He then says, goes.

    If He claims to be God John 10:33, then whoever He is Lord over, will be Lorded over accordingly. Those whom He is not Lord, will not accept Him as such. The point? It very much can be a salvation issue. Those who know Him as Lord are Lorded over by Him and His instructions over this matter. Those who are their own lords will decide for themselves who He is or even who 'god' is in their lives because they are lording their own lives as best as they see fit. 2 Corinthians 5:17


    You know Lord/ King is a reference to Man made in the image of GOD, reflecting the Light of GOD through the Word of GOD, right. Man is not to be conflated with GOD almighty. Though to the Word of GOD and Spirit of GOD that guide and fill the vessel of man is indeed GOD, yet still surely not the literal fullness there of.
    I realize what you are saying, but it is a tangent, your thoughts about Him. Rather I said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Paul is comparing two ideas: One who has God and one who has some other idol than God. The latter without God, can say all kinds of things against the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone, Paul's argument continues, who knows the real and only God, will not only not say anything negative about the Lord Jesus Christ, they will know Him clearly as Lord of their own lives.
    1 Corinthians 12:3 is written addressing the difference between those who have and know the Lord Jesus Christ, and those who do not. Matthew 7:22,23 is the same. It isn't just knowing Him as Lord and Savior, but also Him knowing you/them/me. A danger would be then, to not heed those scriptures and worse, naysay them. We know John 20:28 is very clear. Thomas was indeed calling the Lord and Savior his God. There is no possible way to not understand that is what is being said, it is just that clear. John 1:1 etc. I have a whole thread over what the Bible says about the Lord Jesus Christ being God. The danger, for either or, or any of us, is to not recognize whom He as Lord and Master of our lives, claims to be. It is, indeed, imperative that we get this right. Matthew 7:22,23 In Him -Lon
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