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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    STP thinks he knows if I am grafted in or not.

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    Yep, it's an impossibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Yep, it's an impossibility.
    I realize you claim no grafting into the olive tree, nor being under any covenant.

    Poor man.

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    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    I realize you claim no grafting into the olive tree, nor being under any covenant.

    Poor man.

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    You cannot get graffed in.
    The Olive Tree was hewn down.
    You are a fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    You cannot get graffed in.
    The Olive Tree was hewn down.
    You are a fraud.
    If Lazy is a fraud on that basis, then by your own words, so are you.

    The Olive Tree was not hewn down.

    Rather, those Unbelieving branches that had once had access to the generic place of blessing said Tree represents, were broken off because they never were of faith, to begin with.

    Again, you are being too wooden in your literalness, bro.

    Not to mention, your obvious failure to look at the thing from the various rules of grammar.

    http://doctrine.org/the-olive-tree/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    You cannot get graffed in.
    The Olive Tree was hewn down.
    You are a fraud.
    and you are no true Christian to deny the grafting in of all believers into the same olive tree filled with Christ.

    Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
    Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
    Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
    Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
    Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
    Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
    Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
    Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

    Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
    Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
    Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
    Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
    Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
    Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
    Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
    Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
    Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

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    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    and you are no true Christian to deny the grafting in of all believers into the same olive tree filled with Christ.

    Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
    Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
    Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
    Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
    Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
    Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
    Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
    Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

    Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
    Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
    Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
    Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
    Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
    Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
    Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
    Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
    Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Put him on ignore, LA
    You aren't graffed in, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    If Lazy is a fraud on that basis, then by your own words, so are you.
    Brother SaulToPaul doesn't believe he is graffed in to anything, so who's the fraud? There is no olive tree to be graffed into today! Those who are in Christ today are identified by one Spirit into one body (1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV) having trusted the Lord believing the gospel of the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV). Those who Paul was speaking of concerning the grafting in, "wert graffed in" prior to ever hearing Paul's gospel and needed to be established (continue in God's goodness) by Paul's "my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,..." or they too would be cut off!
    2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    Brother SaulToPaul doesn't believe he is graffed in to anything, so who's the fraud? There is no olive tree to be graffed into today! Those who are in Christ today are identified by one Spirit into one body (1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV) having trusted the Lord believing the gospel of the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV). Those who Paul was speaking of concerning the grafting in, "wert graffed in" prior to ever hearing Paul's gospel and needed to be established (continue in God's goodness) by Paul's "my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,..." or they too would be cut off!
    Fake news.

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    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    Brother SaulToPaul doesn't believe he is graffed in to anything, so who's the fraud? There is no olive tree to be graffed into today! Those who are in Christ today are identified by one Spirit into one body (1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV) having trusted the Lord believing the gospel of the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV). Those who Paul was speaking of concerning the grafting in, "wert graffed in" prior to ever hearing Paul's gospel and needed to be established (continue in God's goodness) by Paul's "my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,..." or they too would be cut off!
    Lol - more of your confused Hybrid in your incompetence: no wonder you deflected by pretending to take issue with Shawn; his valid 60 page, 15 throughly examined points on just some of yours errors, nailed the coffin shut on your pompous self-delusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    Brother SaulToPaul doesn't believe he is graffed in to anything, so who's the fraud? There is no olive tree to be graffed into today! Those who are in Christ today are identified by one Spirit into one body (1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV) having trusted the Lord believing the gospel of the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV). Those who Paul was speaking of concerning the grafting in, "wert graffed in" prior to ever hearing Paul's gospel and needed to be established (continue in God's goodness) by Paul's "my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,..." or they too would be cut off!
    Indeed sister, there is no Olive Tree today, and Danoh knows this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    Brother SaulToPaul doesn't believe he is graffed in to anything, so who's the fraud? There is no olive tree to be graffed into today! Those who are in Christ today are identified by one Spirit into one body (1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV) having trusted the Lord believing the gospel of the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV). Those who Paul was speaking of concerning the grafting in, "wert graffed in" prior to ever hearing Paul's gospel and needed to be established (continue in God's goodness) by Paul's "my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,..." or they too would be cut off!


    Where is the proof of your last line? That's not how it reads. There are no splintered time frames in the passage. and your line contradicts itself by saying 'prior to ever'...
    Last edited by Interplanner; April 20th, 2017 at 07:26 AM. Reason: No splinters and Unclear pronouns
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Where is the proof of your last line? That's not how it reads. There are splintered time frames in it. and it contradicts itself by saying 'prior to ever'...
    I understand her post. Why can't you?
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