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    WHY THE VAIL ??

    Hi to all and when I read the OT , I feel sad for most !!

    In 2 Cor 3:14 we see what the Holy Spirit has written through Paul :

    #1 , The Jew THOUGHTS were hardened !!

    #2, Even until today !!

    #3 , And when they read the Old Covenant , the same COVERING remains as it was being abolished during the Acts period !!

    Verse 15 But until this day , when Moses is being read , a COVERING lies upon their heart !~

    And I wonder how Gentiles who read Moses and when they read the GOSPELS there is a COVERING on their Hearts also and will never accept the MYSTERY of Rom 16:25 and 26 !!

    You do know that the GOSPELS are OT , don't you !!

    It means that Israel has been set ASIDE , don't you see ?

    I wonder why some have not TULIPED them , also as they are also the ELECT !!

    So , this means that there is ONLY 1P 1P and it is DISPENSATIONALISM , YES !!

    dan p
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi to all and when I read the OT , I feel sad for most !!

    In 2 Cor 3:14 we see what the Holy Spirit has written through Paul :

    #1 , The Jew THOUGHTS were hardened !!

    #2, Even until today !!

    #3 , And when they read the Old Covenant , the same COVERING remains as it was being abolished during the Acts period !!

    Verse 15 But until this day , when Moses is being read , a COVERING lies upon their heart !~

    And I wonder how Gentiles who read Moses and when they read the GOSPELS there is a COVERING on their Hearts also and will never accept the MYSTERY of Rom 16:25 and 26 !!

    You do know that the GOSPELS are OT , don't you !!

    It means that Israel has been set ASIDE , don't you see ?

    I wonder why some have not TULIPED them , also as they are also the ELECT !!

    So , this means that there is ONLY 1P 1P and it is DISPENSATIONALISM , YES !!

    dan p



    d'ism by definition means there are 2 peoples and programs. Otherwise it would be in agreement with Gal 3 etc. It is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    d'ism by definition means there are 2 peoples and programs. Otherwise it would be in agreement with Gal 3 etc. It is not.
    For a genius, you are not very bright.
    There are Jews/Gentiles in both programs.

    You do not even know what you are arguing against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    For a genius, you are not very bright.
    There are Jews/Gentiles in both programs.

    You do not even know what you are arguing against.

    Hi and God is not running to Programs at the same time , close but no BANANA !!

    There is only one PROGRAM today called the Revelation of the MYSTERY , Rom 16:25 so it is a 1P 1P , SO you believe in it , do you NOT ??

    Israel has been set aside because they REJECTED there MESSIAH !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and God is not running to Programs at the same time , close but no BANANA !!

    There is only one PROGRAM today called the Revelation of the MYSTERY , Rom 16:25 so it is a 1P 1P , SO you believe in it , do you NOT ??

    Israel has been set aside because they REJECTED there MESSIAH !!

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    We are on the same team, Dan.

    The Kingdom program had Jews and some Gentiles. The Body program has Gentiles and some Jews.
    IP does not know what he's saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    For a genius, you are not very bright.
    There are Jews/Gentiles in both programs.

    You do not even know what you are arguing against.
    Interplanner is who they had in mind when they described this controllable affliction of neurons.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

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    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    We are on the same team, Dan.

    The Kingdom program had Jews and some Gentiles. The Body program has Gentiles and some Jews.
    IP does not know what he's saying.

    Hi and it will always be a GREAT DAY for Dispensationalist , until we are DEPARTED !!

    And he will never say how a person can be saved UNDER A 1P 1P program , nor explain where he goes when he dies !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi to all and when I read the OT , I feel sad for most !!

    In 2 Cor 3:14 we see what the Holy Spirit has written through Paul :

    #1 , The Jew THOUGHTS were hardened !!

    #2, Even until today !!

    #3 , And when they read the Old Covenant , the same COVERING remains as it was being abolished during the Acts period !!

    Verse 15 But until this day , when Moses is being read , a COVERING lies upon their heart !~

    And I wonder how Gentiles who read Moses and when they read the GOSPELS there is a COVERING on their Hearts also and will never accept the MYSTERY of Rom 16:25 and 26 !!

    You do know that the GOSPELS are OT , don't you !!

    It means that Israel has been set ASIDE , don't you see ?

    I wonder why some have not TULIPED them , also as they are also the ELECT !!

    So , this means that there is ONLY 1P 1P and it is DISPENSATIONALISM , YES !!

    dan p
    Israel had not been allowed to see the end the Law had pointed to.

    That glory that excelleth.

    Most throughout their generations (though not all) had responded to that by not believing Moses.

    "We be Abraham's seed," such concluded, John 5 and John 8.

    Such looked back to Israel's Unconditional Covenant - towards being able to live as they pleased, inwardly - in unbelief.

    Blinding themselves by that, even as they read in their Law, of a coming Messiah.

    Likewise is the case today regarding an actual, fair hearing out of THE Mystery.

    The wisdom of men that men began to respond against The Mystery in Paul's day with, continued after his passing.

    Bring up THE Mystery and you run smack into one or another, of the traditions of men.

    Someone like an Interplanner?

    Not only has he been too far gone down that road for far too long; but he has often admitted he is being dishonest.

    The following passage is one he has been asserting on here for over two years that he willfully violates, as far as allowing himself to actually hear out ANY "MADist."

    Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 17:12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

    The result of the likes of an Interplanner's oft professed willful violation of those principles described in verse 11 there?

    His many posts along the exact same line as that chapter's very next verse...

    17:13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.

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    My above is exactly why I peeve Interplanner so - how pint point accurate my book "about" him is - drives him up the wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    My above is exactly why I peeve Interplanner so - how pint point accurate my book "about" him is - drives him up the wall

    Hi and did not , IP claim at one point to be a Dispensatioanait ??

    Maybe it was all the College training and FAKE NEWS that turned him aside ??

    We see in Acts 21:21 that Paul preached against the Law of Moses , what do you know ?

    dan p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Interplanner is who they had in mind when they described this controllable affliction of neurons.


    There aren't two programs. There was the child-trainer/governess phase of the law, now over because (we--Paul's "we" in Judaism) had become adults in Christ, unless they decided not to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and it will always be a GREAT DAY for Dispensationalist , until we are DEPARTED !!

    And he will never say how a person can be saved UNDER A 1P 1P program , nor explain where he goes when he dies !!

    dan p



    There are not two programs. Judaism thought there was a 2nd but was mistaken. What Paul taught is what was meant all along. If you are not doing what Paul taught, thinking his way, you are not 'with the program.' He is not a fluke, an aberration, to be left and to which a 'real' program will be returned to. Gal 3:17 tells us there was a replacement and displacement already going on (Judaism) that needed to be cleared up.

    But in 2P2P that would be avoided even though that is the plain meaning. Because 2P2P trumps plain meaning where necessary (to 2P2P).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    There aren't two programs.
    Sure there were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    There are not two programs. Judaism thought there was a 2nd but was mistaken. What Paul taught is what was meant all along. If you are not doing what Paul taught, thinking his way, you are not 'with the program.' He is not a fluke, an aberration, to be left and to which a 'real' program will be returned to. Gal 3:17 tells us there was a replacement and displacement already going on (Judaism) that needed to be cleared up.

    But in 2P2P that would be avoided even though that is the plain meaning. Because 2P2P trumps plain meaning where necessary (to 2P2P).
    You've never studied the Bible, so you do not know this:


    The LORD Jesus came unto his own. Some received him, some did not. Those that received him abode in the Apostles doctrine, and have a spot in the New Jerusalem. Those that rejected the LORD were subject to God's wrath but instead of immediately casting them away he raised up Paul. It is to THESE Jews (and also Gentiles) that Paul was sent.

    There were two groups at that time, with different doctrines, different purposes, different destinies, different paths into God's plan.

    And, one more thing....put down the commentaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    There aren't two programs. There was the child-trainer/governess phase of the law, now over because (we--Paul's "we" in Judaism) had become adults in Christ, unless they decided not to be.
    A Bible believer knows that some people inherit the earth, some the City, and some heaven itself.
    You CANNOT make them be the same inheritance. And, why would you want to?
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