Calling all Open Theists for Feedback

[Nick M]

Please quote out of Calvinist testimonies or Reformed confessions, where the bolded above is stated as belief.

God never rejected the reprobate according to His foreknowledge of their actions. God rejects reprobates according to His will.
God formed all men, either for dishonor or honor, according to His willful purposes and good pleasure.
To reject this truth is disbelief and a rejection of Sovereign God Himself.

All to easy....

[Lon]

What?

You are not going to join unity party with EE like your fellow brother Lon?

I think AMR joined EE and Lon too.

You are the next one that EE will silence you with his usual flattering tactic.

Proverbs 18:24; 27:6,17 You don't always have to stand on that side of the fence, but it would require you to be vulnerable to what others believe about the scriptures. My theology can handle it simply because I study still, to show myself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15 ;3:16-17

Discuss 'with' rather than preaching 'at...' Either someone is indoctrinated and resistant, or they have built their theology over time and hard study. The former could ONLY preach at, because they haven't the skills to prove the word of God.

[meshak]

Proverbs 18:24; 27:6,17 You don't always have to stand on that side of the fence, but it would require you to be vulnerable to what others believe about the scriptures. My theology can handle it simply because I study still, to show myself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15 ;3:16-17

Discuss 'with' rather than preaching 'at...' Either someone is indoctrinated and resistant, or they have built their theology over time and hard study. The former could ONLY preach at, because they haven't the skills to prove the word of God.

Hello Lon,

Peace

[Bright Raven]

Open Theists do not believe in the total omniscience of God.

[ok doser]

Calling all Open Theists for Feedback

OK

Spoiler

[Nang]

Open Theists do not believe in the total omniscience of God.

I know.

I do.

So on what basis does this great rift between beliefs unify as EE proposes?

Through "love?"

What "love" do Open Theists and Madists exhibit toward Calvinists?

I have been posting on TOL for 10 years. I am not "loved" by the Open Theists nor any Madists at all.

Nada, never . . .

What makes you think a thread by EE is going to bridge the gap?

[Nang]

What?

You are not going to join unity party with EE like your fellow brother Lon?

I think AMR joined EE and Lon too.

You are the next one that EE will silence you with his usual flattering tactic.

Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .

[meshak]

Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .

I think you are right.

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Open Theists do not believe in the total omniscience of God.

Bright Raven,

I've grown to respect you enormously. In the base understanding of Open Theism... God is absolutely Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient... Open Theism states that God willfully and purposely limited His foreknowledge to ensure freewill and sincere relationship. We have a live example of this here... (Php. 2:5f, 7f)

I have an extensive response to Lon that shares a differing perspective to his. But, let me make this clear... Lon's opinion in the matter is as valid as mine and so is yours. I only write this in response for the sake of sharing my personal perspective in the matter.

Link to come...

LINK HERE

I always appreciate scriptural opposition and information that comes from the stance of sincerity and Christ based Love and concern! (That would be anything you share, Bright Raven).

- EE

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

OK

Spoiler

Now that's quality "feedback"!

[Lon]

Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .

That too, and you have been a Calvinist a lot longer, studied, and convicted. I'd suspect you've been through many more of these discussions as a veteran (how were you and those in the early days?).

I am not great about approaching all subjects gently but I am ever working on it. Truth and Spirit is ever a balancing act and I'm not terrific at always keeping one side or the other from ever being out of balance...working on it.... In Him -Lon

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .

@Nang ... I edited this to remove it's overly harsh tone.

You tend to throw rules in people's faces... but the second your feet are held to that rule fire... you become upset.

Go back to the Open Theism Club and read the rules... they're extensively clear.

Please consider your time on this thread an act of mercy and if you would like to scripturally enlighten me... I would be deeply appreciative. (I am sincere on this matter)

- EE

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

@Eagles Wings and @Nang ... is there any future hope of reconciliation with both of you and the possibility of shifting from adversaries to... Christ saved comrades that agree to disagree and sharpen one another through tasteful debate and challenge?

I'll make the move... I'm sorry for being hurtful towards both of you and seek (1 Cor. 1:13) unity in Jesus, our Lord, God and Savior. We may butt heads in the future, but I will do my level best to resist being smug and hurtful.

What do you think?

[glorydaz]

I know.

I do.

So on what basis does this great rift between beliefs unify as EE proposes?

Through "love?"

What "love" do Open Theists and Madists exhibit toward Calvinists?

I have been posting on TOL for 10 years. I am not "loved" by the Open Theists nor any Madists at all.

Nada, never . . .

What makes you think a thread by EE is going to bridge the gap?

The fact that you aren't "loved", Nang, has nothing to do with your particular beliefs, but with your snooty, know-it-all, and often snarky manner.

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Unfortunately... some people like ... "we'll keep it at some people" worship the words and message of Calvin, but AMR and Lon aren't guilty of this!

Indeed.

@Nick M
@Lon
@Ask Mr. Religion

Who saved you? Who's Name were you baptized Under? (Acts 19:5)
Please answer with one word each of you and see if we are as different as we say.

Jesus.
John 6:37; John 6:39; John 10:29; John 17:11-12; John 17:9; John 17:22; John 18:9

AMR