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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post

    Please quote out of Calvinist testimonies or Reformed confessions, where the bolded above is stated as belief.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    God never rejected the reprobate according to His foreknowledge of their actions. God rejects reprobates according to His will.
    God formed all men, either for dishonor or honor, according to His willful purposes and good pleasure.
    To reject this truth is disbelief and a rejection of Sovereign God Himself.
    All to easy....
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    What?

    You are not going to join unity party with EE like your fellow brother Lon?

    I think AMR joined EE and Lon too.

    You are the next one that EE will silence you with his usual flattering tactic.
    Proverbs 18:24; 27:6,17 You don't always have to stand on that side of the fence, but it would require you to be vulnerable to what others believe about the scriptures. My theology can handle it simply because I study still, to show myself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15 ;3:16-17

    Discuss 'with' rather than preaching 'at...' Either someone is indoctrinated and resistant, or they have built their theology over time and hard study. The former could ONLY preach at, because they haven't the skills to prove the word of God.
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Proverbs 18:24; 27:6,17 You don't always have to stand on that side of the fence, but it would require you to be vulnerable to what others believe about the scriptures. My theology can handle it simply because I study still, to show myself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15 ;3:16-17

    Discuss 'with' rather than preaching 'at...' Either someone is indoctrinated and resistant, or they have built their theology over time and hard study. The former could ONLY preach at, because they haven't the skills to prove the word of God.
    Hello Lon,

    Peace

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    Open Theists do not believe in the total omniscience of God.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Calling all Open Theists for Feedback

    OK


    Spoiler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Open Theists do not believe in the total omniscience of God.
    I know.

    I do.

    So on what basis does this great rift between beliefs unify as EE proposes?

    Through "love?"

    What "love" do Open Theists and Madists exhibit toward Calvinists?

    I have been posting on TOL for 10 years. I am not "loved" by the Open Theists nor any Madists at all.

    Nada, never . . .

    What makes you think a thread by EE is going to bridge the gap?
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

    " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
    Gordon H. Clark

    "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
    Charles Spurgeon

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    What?

    You are not going to join unity party with EE like your fellow brother Lon?

    I think AMR joined EE and Lon too.

    You are the next one that EE will silence you with his usual flattering tactic.
    Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

    When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

    " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
    Gordon H. Clark

    "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
    Charles Spurgeon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

    When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .

    I think you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Open Theists do not believe in the total omniscience of God.
    Bright Raven,

    I've grown to respect you enormously. In the base understanding of Open Theism... God is absolutely Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient... Open Theism states that God willfully and purposely limited His foreknowledge to ensure freewill and sincere relationship. We have a live example of this here... (Php. 2:5f, 7f)

    I have an extensive response to Lon that shares a differing perspective to his. But, let me make this clear... Lon's opinion in the matter is as valid as mine and so is yours. I only write this in response for the sake of sharing my personal perspective in the matter.

    Link to come...

    LINK HERE

    I always appreciate scriptural opposition and information that comes from the stance of sincerity and Christ based Love and concern! (That would be anything you share, Bright Raven).

    - EE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    OK


    Spoiler
    Now that's quality "feedback"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

    When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .
    That too, and you have been a Calvinist a lot longer, studied, and convicted. I'd suspect you've been through many more of these discussions as a veteran (how were you and those in the early days?).

    I am not great about approaching all subjects gently but I am ever working on it. Truth and Spirit is ever a balancing act and I'm not terrific at always keeping one side or the other from ever being out of balance...working on it.... In Him -Lon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Too late . . I have already been threatened with serious censor by Knight.

    When they cannot love you, they ban you . . .
    @Nang ... I edited this to remove it's overly harsh tone.

    You tend to throw rules in people's faces... but the second your feet are held to that rule fire... you become upset.

    Go back to the Open Theism Club and read the rules... they're extensively clear.

    Please consider your time on this thread an act of mercy and if you would like to scripturally enlighten me... I would be deeply appreciative. (I am sincere on this matter)

    - EE
    Last edited by Evil.Eye.<(I)>; March 21st, 2017 at 07:28 AM.

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    @Eagles Wings and @Nang ... is there any future hope of reconciliation with both of you and the possibility of shifting from adversaries to... Christ saved comrades that agree to disagree and sharpen one another through tasteful debate and challenge?

    I'll make the move... I'm sorry for being hurtful towards both of you and seek (1 Cor. 1:13) unity in Jesus, our Lord, God and Savior. We may butt heads in the future, but I will do my level best to resist being smug and hurtful.

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    I know.

    I do.

    So on what basis does this great rift between beliefs unify as EE proposes?

    Through "love?"

    What "love" do Open Theists and Madists exhibit toward Calvinists?

    I have been posting on TOL for 10 years. I am not "loved" by the Open Theists nor any Madists at all.

    Nada, never . . .

    What makes you think a thread by EE is going to bridge the gap?
    The fact that you aren't "loved", Nang, has nothing to do with your particular beliefs, but with your snooty, know-it-all, and often snarky manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Unfortunately... some people like ... "we'll keep it at some people" worship the words and message of Calvin, but AMR and Lon aren't guilty of this!
    Indeed.

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