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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    There is nothing heretical about what I am preaching.
    You teach a false nature of God!
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    No you are not. Just the opposite, for preaching heretical doctrine.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I am being attacked for preaching the truth.

    See Persecution Complex fourth one down, but look at the whole list too. One who opposes all the rest, thinks they are special with the Lord above the rest of Christendom and it ties directly to 'I must be right' as well as 'if someone opposes me, it is because I'm right.' It is circular reasoning that could only be proved by God alone, thus is also 'special' revelation as well. ALL cults that divert from orthodox Christianity do this. All groups are much smaller than a triumphal God would be capable of. They literally have Him calling the fewest and saving the fewest possible people on earth. It isn't logical of a God who is capable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    See Persecution Complex fourth one down, but look at the whole list too. One who opposes all the rest, thinks they are special with the Lord above the rest of Christendom and it ties directly to 'I must be right' as well as 'if someone opposes me, it is because I'm right.' It is circular reasoning that could only be proved by God alone, thus is also 'special' revelation as well. ALL cults that divert from orthodox Christianity do this. All groups are much smaller than a triumphal God would be capable of. They literally have Him calling the fewest and saving the fewest possible people on earth. It isn't logical of a God who is capable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    You teach a false nature of God!
    You should be more careful what you say to people and what you claim they do.

    Tell me the false nature I taught.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Right, in the sheep and goat analogy, Christ is referring to those of the nations during the tribulation according to how they treat Christ's believing Jewish brethren. This judgement takes place at Christ's second coming when He sits on His glorious throne, the promised throne of David. Mt 25:31-32 Joel 3:1-2
    I will be in heaven long before this.

    Sheep, wolves and sheepdogs.
    So, what?

    believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    I will be in heaven long before this.

    Sheep, wolves and sheepdogs.
    Yep! Me, too, Sister!
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TulipBee View Post
    Those that Jesus loves are saved
    For God so loved the world...... that whosoever......

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    For God so loved the world...... that whosoever......
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    See Persecution Complex fourth one down, but look at the whole list too. One who opposes all the rest, thinks they are special with the Lord above the rest of Christendom and it ties directly to 'I must be right' as well as 'if someone opposes me, it is because I'm right.' It is circular reasoning that could only be proved by God alone, thus is also 'special' revelation as well. ALL cults that divert from orthodox Christianity do this. All groups are much smaller than a triumphal God would be capable of. They literally have Him calling the fewest and saving the fewest possible people on earth. It isn't logical of a God who is capable.
    Spot on!
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    See Persecution Complex fourth one down, but look at the whole list too. One who opposes all the rest, thinks they are special with the Lord above the rest of Christendom and it ties directly to 'I must be right' as well as 'if someone opposes me, it is because I'm right.' It is circular reasoning that could only be proved by God alone, thus is also 'special' revelation as well. ALL cults that divert from orthodox Christianity do this. All groups are much smaller than a triumphal God would be capable of. They literally have Him calling the fewest and saving the fewest possible people on earth. It isn't logical of a God who is capable.
    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Spot on!
    It's perfect for God's Untruth. What's really interesting is that she jumps right in and proves it with each post she makes. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You should be more careful what you say to people and what you claim they do.

    Tell me the false nature I taught.
    You teach that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all the same. If they were, why are there so many distinctions in the scriptures. Examples;

    John 14:23 New King James Version (NKJV)

    23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. {Two different persons)

    John 14:26 New King James Version (NKJV)

    26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. (Three different persons)

    Explain those verses through your theology.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    You teach that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all the same.

    If they were, why are there so many distinctions in the scriptures. Examples;

    John 14:23 New King James Version (NKJV)

    23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. {Two different persons)
    That is about receiving the Holy Spirit.

    If they are not the same, then how do you have two Spirits when we are only given one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    John 14:26 New King James Version (NKJV)

    26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. (Three different persons)

    Explain those verses through your theology.
    Jesus explains that the Spirit that was living with them and would be in them is him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    That is about receiving the Holy Spirit.

    If they are not the same, then how do you have two Spirits when we are only given one?



    Jesus explains that the Spirit that was living with them and would be in them is him.
    Are you serious??? Get real and try again!!!
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Are you serious??? Get real and try again!!!
    Read it and think about it more.
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    Amr, and Lon, I want to debate with the both of you here, I don't want to go to other posts. Post it again for me as we go along.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
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