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    Can a person loose their salvation?

    What do you think?
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    What do you think?
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    If a person thinks they have salvation but don't. They are only saved. They can loose their saved status.

    Matt 18:23-35
    23 "Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
    24 "And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents.
    25 "But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made.
    26 "The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
    27 "Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
    28 "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!'
    29 "So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
    30 "And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt.
    31 "So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.
    32 "Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me.
    33 'Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?'
    34 "And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
    35 "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."
    (NKJ)

    I said
    When your saved your name is written in the book of life.


    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    (NKJ)
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    When someone comes to Christ and receives the Holy Spirit they are converted but are only a babe in Christ. This is just the beginning of our walk with Christ not the end. The babe in Christ has to grow into maturity and during this growing phase many can and do fall away because Satan's temptations are the fiercest during this time. Once the babe reaches maturity there is no possibility of falling away. A mature Christian is one who understands that works play no role whatsoever in his relationship with Christ and lives by faith alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    When someone comes to Christ and receives the Holy Spirit they are converted but are only a babe in Christ. This is just the beginning of our walk with Christ not the end. The babe in Christ has to grow into maturity and during this growing phase many can and do fall away because Satan's temptations are the fiercest during this time. Once the babe reaches maturity there is no possibility of falling away. A mature Christian is one who understands that works play no role whatsoever in his relationship with Christ and lives by faith alone.
    So you think God would allow a babe to be lost or snatched from His hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    So you think God would allow a babe to be lost or snatched from His hand?
    Jesus said point blank that believers fall away because of persecution, cares of this world and riches. It's sad but it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    Jesus said point blank that believers fall away because of persecution, cares of this world and riches. It's sad but it happens.
    Yes it is folly to think one can not fall away from the faith, a clear disregard for what God has said.

    Babies are not concerned about it because they are kept in their mothers watchful care,

    but when believers become older they know the power of life is in their hands and the devil will pull out everything he has to try and destroy them, including using the mouths of the young lions.

    LA
    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Yes it is folly to think one can not fall away from the faith, a clear disregard for what God has said.

    Babies are not concerned about it because they are kept in their mothers watchful care,

    but when believers become older they know the power of life is in their hands and the devil will pull out everything he has to try and destroy them, including using the mouths of the young lions.

    LA
    Nonsense. "The power of life is in their hands..." Blasphemy!


    Those who are saved continue....NO DOUBT about it.

    1 John 2:19KJV They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    Jesus said point blank that believers fall away because of persecution, cares of this world and riches. It's sad but it happens.
    No, He was talking about seeds sown....that's the word being preached to various kinds of people. You're assuming those various kinds of people were believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    No, He was talking about seeds sown....that's the word being preached to various kinds of people. You're assuming those various kinds of people were believers.
    I will admit that it is very subjective. Did they really believe in the first place or were they truly born again? No one knows but God. The true sheep of God are led thru every trial and tribulation without falling away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    A person must be saved to get their name written in the book of life. And if anyone adds to the Word, like adding trinity. Or if anyone takes away from the Word like calling Jesus God.
    Their name will be taken OUT of the book of life.

    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    (NKJ)
    Adding to the word - you mean like when you said a person's guardian angel reveals the truth to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shasta View Post
    Adding to the word - you mean like when you said a person's guardian angel reveals the truth to him?
    You just rebuked a deceiver! Please... talk to @Tambora , @musterion , @Lon , @steko, @Angel4Truth, @Grosnick Marowbe , @Ask Mr. Religion , @SaulToPaul , @Bright Raven , @Nick M. , @john w, @Jerry Shugart... @the list is so long it is impossible to type all these lights for Christ ... about Works vs. Faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    You just rebuked a deceiver! Please... talk to @Tambora , @musterion , @Lon , @steko, @Angel4Truth, @Grosnik Marrowbe , @Ask Mr. Religion , @SaulToPaul , @Bright Raven , @Nick M. , @john w, @Jerry Shugart... @the list is so long it is impossible to type all these lights for Christ ... about Works vs. Faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shasta View Post
    Adding to the word - you mean like when you said a person's guardian angel reveals the truth to him?
    I said
    I never said that. I said your guardian angel speaks carnally and agrees with the Holy Spirit that only quotes verses. The Holy Spirit is truth. The Word of God is truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    I never said that. I said your guardian angel speaks carnally and agrees with the Holy Spirit that only quotes verses. The Holy Spirit is truth. The Word of God is truth.
    There are no "verses" that support this. So the Holy Spirit could not have been shown you this in the word. Therefore it is extra-Biblical personal revelation.

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