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    hillary certainly wouldn't have

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Trump has pretty much said that he was just repeating a claim he heard on Fox News, and Fox News has said that they can't confirm the veracity of the claim, as it was made by one of their wingnut commentators, not one of their journalists.

    The whole thing is nonsense, and Trump has been using it as a distraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Trump has pretty much said that he was just repeating a claim he heard on Fox News, and Fox News has said that they can't confirm the veracity of the claim, as it was made by one of their wingnut commentators, not one of their journalists.

    The whole thing is nonsense, and Trump has been using it as a distraction.
    Trump's continues to lie, lie, lie. He can do no wrong in the eyes of the Trumpeters. I guess what they love about him is he bears false witness but doesn't ask God to forgive him. I think he thinks he is god at least that what he reads in Two Corinthians.

    The new norm for certain parts of Christianity is to love such a low-life, corrupt, adulterer, hypocrite, thief.

    No one has to think hard at all to think of public instances of each of those adjectives defining him. His 58% disapproval rating shows the public knows. We know his mouth pieces and "stress" secretary Spicy know the pain of trying to pull him out of the painted corner he places himself in continually.

    Well in a few hours we will know if Comey is truthful or goes politically. He asked last week for the DOJ to clear this up which Trump could have done with one phone call-instead of relying on anonymous sources, which he condemns. Pot meet kettle.

    Republicans are dismissing this wiretapping, but I guess people on this thread know better.

    House Intelligence Committee chair Devin Nunes said Sunday he has still seen no evidence to show Trump Tower was wiretapped after reviewing information from the Department of Justice.
    The U.S. didn't do it. The British didn't do. Who's next in Trump's paranoia - North Korea did it for Obama. LOL.
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    WASHINGTON — American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, current and former senior American officials said.

    The continuing counterintelligence investigation means that Mr. Trump will take the oath of office on Friday with his associates under investigation and after the intelligence agencies concluded that the Russian government had worked to help elect him. As president, Mr. Trump will oversee those agencies and have the authority to redirect or stop at least some of these efforts....

    The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.


    Let's recap. It's always good to get away from the misdirection of the left.
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    Going to Adm. Rogers, Nunes said, “Do you have any evidence that Russian actors changed vote tallies in the state of Michigan?” referring to a battleground state Hillary Clinton lost.

    “No, I do not,” Rogers responded, before emphasizing the NSA is a foreign intelligence agency, and does not focus domestically.

    “How about the state of Pennsylvania?” Nunes asked.

    “No, sir,” Rogers responded.

    “The state of Wisconsin?”

    “No, sir,” Rogers said.

    He gave similar answers when asked about vote tallying in Florida, North Carolina and Ohio.

    Turning to Comey, Nunes said, “Do you have any evidence that the FBI that any votes were changed in the states I mentioned to Adm. Rogers?”

    “No,” Comey responded.

    So they wired tapped Trump and his campaign and found.....nothing. The opposite of the narrative you will be fed until the end of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Going to Adm. Rogers, Nunes said, “Do you have any evidence that Russian actors changed vote tallies in the state of Michigan?” referring to a battleground state Hillary Clinton lost.

    “No, I do not,” Rogers responded, before emphasizing the NSA is a foreign intelligence agency, and does not focus domestically.

    “How about the state of Pennsylvania?” Nunes asked.

    “No, sir,” Rogers responded.

    “The state of Wisconsin?”

    “No, sir,” Rogers said.

    He gave similar answers when asked about vote tallying in Florida, North Carolina and Ohio.

    Turning to Comey, Nunes said, “Do you have any evidence that the FBI that any votes were changed in the states I mentioned to Adm. Rogers?”

    “No,” Comey responded.

    So they wired tapped Trump and his campaign and found.....nothing. The opposite of the narrative you will be fed until the end of time.
    Has anyone said that Russia changed the vote tallies?

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    So you're saying Russians made information available that was hidden? All information comes from somewhere and has to be released. You're saying the election is illegitimate because a foreign player provided the electorate with information they would not know about without them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post

    Let's recap. It's always good to get away from the misdirection of the left.
    Yes, let's recap:

    The calls were picked up as part of routine electronic surveillance of Russian officials and agents in the United States, which is one of the FBI’s responsibilities, according to the U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss counterintelligence operations.

    And then surprise, surprise... guess who the Russians were talking to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Yep - do - your - homework.
    Amazing how he amassed as much wealth as he did with one failure after another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Amazing how he amassed as much wealth as he did with one failure after another.
    Since he hasn't released his tax returns, you have no idea how much wealth he has, other than what he says he has. And Trump's grasp on truth is tenuous, at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Has anyone said that Russia changed the vote tallies?
    The voting process is healthy despite what Trump says. He stated there were 3 million illegals voting with no such evidence, which he knows cuz he let it go.

    The unhealthy part is that the Russians are hacking and selectively using WikiLeaks to release what they found to hurt and help and influence American voters, exactly what Comey said. Even Trump asked Russia to hack Hillary and they obliged. No wonder he has a love affair with Putin on this and other financial connections. Trump is not indebted to the same group's that most current politicians are. He has his own indebtedness.

    Trump's actions speak louder than his words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exminister View Post
    The voting process is healthy despite what Trump says. He stated there were 3 million illegals voting with no such evidence, which he knows cuz he let it go.

    The unhealthy part is that the Russians are hacking and selectively using WikiLeaks to release what they found to hurt and help and influence American voters, exactly what Comey said. Even Trump asked Russia to hack Hillary and they obliged. No wonder he has a love affair with Putin on this and other financial connections. Trump is not indebted to the same group's that most current politicians are. He has his own indebtedness.

    Trump's actions speak louder than his words.
    Russians are free to provide information as anyone is. Would you still object if no foreign government took part in the release of that information?

    The electoral process is unhealthy if people hear information you have deemed them not worthy to know? That's the essence of totalitarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post

    And then surprise, surprise... guess who the Russians were talking to?
    american citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    american citizens?

    I wonder what they were talking about outside secure government channels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Russians are free to provide information as anyone is. Would you still object if no foreign government took part in the release of that information?

    The electoral process is unhealthy if people hear information you have deemed them not worthy to know? That's the essence of totalitarianism.

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