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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    It is ever a fascinating study to me...

    That many of the very often smug people on TOL, on all sides, who normally border on cussing one another out during their ugly back and forth with one another on Scripture; collectively put that same kind of an ever self-righteous, self-serving hypocrite of a fraud...in the White House.

    Reminds me of the actual reality behind the Civil War that both sides - long since proven racists to their very core - turned into the alternative fact that most still hold as "fact" to this very day.

    There is no reasoning with such.
    You do realize you dont have to speak with any of the deporables, right?

    "Around the country, progressive bullies have attacked Christians for daring to put their faith ahead of the pet causes of those who feign compassion while destroying life-giving liberties. What we are seeing is a scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners approach as the wildfire burns across our land. It is not enough that Christians be quiet. Christians must be silenced and punished. Their faith cannot be respected. Legislation that ensures people are free to live and work according to their faith without fear of being punished by government must be stopped and decried as discrimination...There is one key reason that those on the Left must force their beliefs on the rest of us: if they didn't force their craziness on us, we would never embrace it." ~Erick Erickson
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Well, they probably did.



    How do you know that? What makes you so certain?
    Comey is the leaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Trump supporters really have no idea as to nature of the Trump Campaign's connection with the Russians - between that and his failure to place his business holdings in a "blind trust," this Administration is already operating under a dark cloud of its own making!
    so impeach him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    so impeach him
    Tissues and crayons are much more appealing.

    "Around the country, progressive bullies have attacked Christians for daring to put their faith ahead of the pet causes of those who feign compassion while destroying life-giving liberties. What we are seeing is a scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners approach as the wildfire burns across our land. It is not enough that Christians be quiet. Christians must be silenced and punished. Their faith cannot be respected. Legislation that ensures people are free to live and work according to their faith without fear of being punished by government must be stopped and decried as discrimination...There is one key reason that those on the Left must force their beliefs on the rest of us: if they didn't force their craziness on us, we would never embrace it." ~Erick Erickson
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Trump supporters really have no idea as to nature of the Trump Campaign's connection with the Russians - between that and his failure to place his business holdings in a "blind trust," this Administration is already operating under a dark cloud of its own making!
    It's impossible for Trump to put his holdings in a blind trust:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ect-trump/amp/

    But you guys want none of that; you can't let go of the idea that Trump wants to use his presidency as a tool to expand his business. It keeps you from clear thinking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    It's impossible for Trump to put his holdings in a blind trust:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ect-trump/amp/

    But you guys want mine of that; you can't let go of the idea that Trump wants to use his presidency as a tool to expand his business. It keeps you from clear thinking.


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    Why should that bother them, the Clintons have done far worse, they use their charity to expand their interests.

    "Around the country, progressive bullies have attacked Christians for daring to put their faith ahead of the pet causes of those who feign compassion while destroying life-giving liberties. What we are seeing is a scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners approach as the wildfire burns across our land. It is not enough that Christians be quiet. Christians must be silenced and punished. Their faith cannot be respected. Legislation that ensures people are free to live and work according to their faith without fear of being punished by government must be stopped and decried as discrimination...There is one key reason that those on the Left must force their beliefs on the rest of us: if they didn't force their craziness on us, we would never embrace it." ~Erick Erickson
    Proverbs 3:5-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Comey is the leaker
    Based on what?
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Based on what?
    a past history of urinary incontinence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    You do realize you dont have to speak with any of the deporables, right?
    Describing them and or talking at them, is not the same as the ever ill-fated attempt to reason with them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    It's impossible for Trump to put his holdings in a blind trust:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ect-trump/amp/

    But you guys want none of that; you can't let go of the idea that Trump wants to use his presidency as a tool to expand his business. It keeps you from clear thinking.
    No president in living memory has refused to release his income tax returns and place his financial assets in a "blind trust."

    The America people have a right to know if any president is engaged in financial conflicts of interest and whether he owns money to foreign interests that are in a position to influence his decisions.

    Trump's assertions that we should all have faith that he's doing the right thing him just aren't good enough - they need to be verified!

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    I'm not seeing anything about Russia in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    It's impossible for Trump to put his holdings in a blind trust:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ect-trump/amp/

    But you guys want none of that; you can't let go of the idea that Trump wants to use his presidency as a tool to expand his business. It keeps you from clear thinking.


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    I agree that it isn't as simple as putting stuff in a blind trust. Trump's financial ties are too complicated. I'm still not convinced that Trump is doing everything he could though. I've heard the argument that Trump should divest himself. But even that isn't perfect because, as the article points out, Trump can't simply forget everything.

    And it isn't about the idea that Trump wants to use his presidency as a tool to expand his business, though I don't put that past him. The point behind removing conflicts is that you don't want the temptation there. You don't want even the appearance of shadiness.

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    ** News Flash **

    Trump was tapped
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Comey is the leaker
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    Based on what?
    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

    ― Theodore Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    ** News Flash **

    Trump was tapped
    Like a maple tree in the spring

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