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    Danoh, comparing homosexuality, something which is innate, not acquired , to addictions such as smoking, drinking and overeating etc iOS totally specious .
    Or to being a murderer , pedophile etc .
    Hanging around left-handed people won't make you a southpaw .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Danoh, comparing homosexuality, something which is innate, not acquired , to addictions such as smoking, drinking and overeating etc iOS totally specious .
    Or to being a murderer , pedophile etc .
    Hanging around left-handed people won't make you a southpaw .
    Nonsense.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Nonsense.
    Of course it is.

    But Horn doesn't need to support his assertion. It's a liberal dogma. It's beyond question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Of course it is.

    But Horn doesn't need to support his assertion. It's a liberal dogma. It's beyond question.
    Perhaps it's not an all or nothing issue.

    Some probably choose homosexuality as a rebellious lifestyle, a mere sexually experimental/anti-establishment phase in their lives. Others, due to sexual trauma....while some are simply born to it... obvious in their manner and actions.

    Though who cares about the distinctions other than those self-righteous types who need to point fingers in a pious effort to elevate their own self-worth and/or disguise insecurities.4th
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Of course it is.

    But Horn doesn't need to support his assertion. It's a liberal dogma. It's beyond question.
    Hmm, a bit like the bizarre notion that folk can train themselves to enjoy Beyonce songs then?



    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Hmm, a bit like the bizarre notion that folk can train themselves to enjoy Beyonce songs then?



    My claim was (and is) that you are the author of your own musical tastes - that your own choices shape your taste in music.

    Do you really want to bring this up again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Perhaps it's not an all or nothing issue.

    Some probably choose homosexuality as a rebellious lifestyle, a mere sexually experimental/anti-establishment phase in their lives. Others, due to sexual trauma....while some are simply born to it... obvious in their manner and actions.
    All of them I know, have been abused. Stats are 97% of them have been, most of them sexually, prior. It is VERY high, even if even 10% of them weren't.

    Honestly, we didn't and don't care and are calling that normal. "Well, they were audacious enough to parade." That doesn't change facts. It is unconscionable to portray that to children. The Horn was correct, it is as bad as putting murder in a Disney movie. We just don't expect such mature content for Children. We don't appreciate teaching kids to cuss in a Disney movie either. We come to expect Disney to be aimed a G subject matter.

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    Though who cares about the distinctions other than those self-righteous types who need to point fingers in a pious effort to elevate their own self-worth and/or disguise insecurities.4th
    It is merely a warning: Don't go see this if you deem inappropriate material unfit for children's view. I do, so will not be supporting Disney whenever they choose this. It is as much about being a consumer, as being a Christian. I think even you would say 'rightfully so.' -Lon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Hmm, a bit like the bizarre notion that folk can train themselves to enjoy Beyonce songs then?





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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Perhaps it's not an all or nothing issue.

    Some probably choose homosexuality as a rebellious lifestyle, a mere sexually experimental/anti-establishment phase in their lives. Others, due to sexual trauma....while some are simply born to it... obvious in their manner and actions.

    Though who cares about the distinctions other than those self-righteous types who need to point fingers in a pious effort to elevate their own self-worth and/or disguise insecurities.4th
    Again, nonsense.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    All of them I know, have been abused. Stats are 97% of them have been, most of them sexually, prior. It is VERY high, even if even 10% of them weren't.
    Your "evidence" is merely anecdotal and circumstantial. There is simply no evidence that sexual abuse plays any major role in homosexuality. Link

    Honestly, we didn't and don't care and are calling that normal. "Well, they were audacious enough to parade." That doesn't change facts. It is unconscionable to portray that to children. The Horn was correct, it is as bad as putting murder in a Disney movie. We just don't expect such mature content for Children. We don't appreciate teaching kids to cuss in a Disney movie either. We come to expect Disney to be aimed a G subject matter.


    It is merely a warning: Don't go see this if you deem inappropriate material unfit for children's view. I do, so will not be supporting Disney whenever they choose this. It is as much about being a consumer, as being a Christian. I think even you would say 'rightfully so.' -Lon
    The implications go much further than Disney movies.
    _/\_

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Again, nonsense.
    Any supporting evidence..or just biased declaration?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Your "evidence" is merely anecdotal and circumstantial.
    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Perhaps it's not an all or nothing issue.

    Some probably choose homosexuality as a rebellious lifestyle, a mere sexually experimental/anti-establishment phase in their lives. Others, due to sexual trauma....while some are simply born to it... obvious in their manner and actions.

    Though who cares about the distinctions other than those self-righteous types who need to point fingers in a pious effort to elevate their own self-worth and/or disguise insecurities.4th
    You're really one to teach about "evidence".
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Any supporting evidence..or just biased declaration?
    YOU made the claim. YOU need to provide EVIDENCE.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
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    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    You're really one to teach about "evidence".
    Then I'll take the former as mere declaration.
    _/\_

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    YOU made the claim. YOU need to provide EVIDENCE.
    I've no such burden. It's a non issue to me whether homosexuality is innate or chosen. The haters are the ones drawing distinctions...so bone up on the evidence.
    _/\_

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