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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I don't preach the old law, scared one.
    Of course you do...ie the commandments written in stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Of course you do...ie the commandments written in stone.
    2Co 3:3
    Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    2Co 3:3
    Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
    Yep. And your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Yep. And your point?
    Two and two - GD - get with their treadmill program

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    2Co 3:3
    Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
    Right on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Yep. And your point?
    We have the new covenant written on our hearts and minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    2Co 3:3
    Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
    They were in the flesh; looking at things according to the flesh.

    Thus their insistence on "letters of commendation" - not only from Paul, of all people, but and or to him, from them.

    The condition based acceptance of those yet carnal - that is "meet our flesh based standard and we'll high five you just like we do one another against others."

    The old...

    2 Corinthians 10:10 For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible.

    Paul's outlook in response to.that nonsense?

    10:11 Let such an one think this, that, such as we are in word by letters when we are absent, such will we be also in deed when we are present. 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 10:13 But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.

    Sounds like those carnal old Corinthians needed to repent of their sin pronto, or lose their salvation.

    Nope.

    For his response to these carnal, or in the flesh Corinthians, is the oddest thing to say to them - if - ye, (that is to say, you and yours in your) works based acceptance error, are correct.

    Instead of telling them they need to repent, or whatever, he tells them YE - you and yours, are OUR letter of commendation.

    How's that for an oddball of a response from the Apostle of the Gentiles to these carnal Corinthians?

    He doesn't pull out your and yours "be all that you can be" foolishness in the flesh so that the Lord can THEN accept you.

    Instead, he reminds them that they and he BOTH belong to God.

    That BOTH they and Paul ARE the result of what GOD HIMSELF has done in their spirit or heart BY the Spirit of God.

    That HE (The Spirit) is BOTH their sufficiency.

    That HE is the One who has enabled them to walk in the power of the Spirit that the New Testament promises will one day ALSO liberate Israel from their blindness and from the bondage of their flesh.

    Israel's via their Promise of the Spirit in a New Testament; the Body's, said Promise of the Spirit "through Christ" directly.

    But hey, if YE want to replace that with some old man Chuck Norris' Total Gym in your own strength in the flesh, well, have at it, dodge.

    You and yours.

    Don't forget the marshmellows.

    As for those who know better; who know their sufficiency is of God, not in us?

    2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

    2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the LORD.

    Ephesians 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    They were in the flesh; looking at things according to the flesh.

    Thus their insistence on "letters of commendation" - not only from Paul, of all people, but and or to him, from them.

    The condition based acceptance of those yet carnal - that is "meet our flesh based standard and we'll high five you just like we do one another against others."

    The old...

    2 Corinthians 10:10 For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible.

    Paul's outlook in response to.that nonsense?

    10:11 Let such an one think this, that, such as we are in word by letters when we are absent, such will we be also in deed when we are present. 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 10:13 But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.

    Sounds like those carnal old Corinthians needed to repent of their sin pronto, or lose their salvation.

    Nope.

    For his response to these carnal, or in the flesh Corinthians, is the oddest thing to say to them - if - ye, (that is to say, you and yours in your) works based acceptance error, are correct.

    Instead of telling them they need to repent, or whatever, he tells them YE - you and yours, are OUR letter of commendation.

    How's that for an oddball of a response from the Apostle of the Gentiles to these carnal Corinthians?

    He doesn't pull out your and yours "be all that you can be" foolishness in the flesh so that the Lord can THEN accept you.

    Instead, he reminds them that they and he BOTH belong to God.

    That BOTH they and Paul ARE the result of what GOD HIMSELF has done in their spirit or heart BY the Spirit of God.

    That HE (The Spirit) is BOTH their sufficiency.

    That HE is the One who has enabled them to walk in the power of the Spirit that the New Testament promises will one day ALSO liberate Israel from their blindness and from the bondage of their flesh.

    Israel's via their Promise of the Spirit in a New Testament; the Body's, said Promise of the Spirit "through Christ" directly.

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    Ephesians 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
    I still don't see what they are trying to claim, but apparently you do. Thanks for the response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Because Jesus obeyed we have him to obey.
    Fine.

    Raise the dead. Walk on water.

    TOL village idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You are a false accuser and slanderer.

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    You say that about almost everyone on TOL, you moron. It's your filler/fall back position, after being picked apart, and after 3 glasses of Jack Daniels and water-hold the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Fine.

    Raise the dead. Walk on water.

    TOL village idiot.
    The only people who could do those things were those who helped in laying the foundation.

    The foundation has been laid.

    No one can do those things anymore.
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    You say that about almost everyone on TOL, you moron. It's your filler/fall back position, after being picked apart, and after 3 glasses of Jack Daniels and water-hold the water.
    No, you say that to almost everyone on TOL.

    You are the TOL clown/mascot/pit bull/slanderer.
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