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    Well I was close.

    /Scot-Irish, German, just a smidgen of Dutch, for the most part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I still don't see what they are trying to claim, but apparently you do. Thanks for the response.
    How are you approaching it - what's your method?

    While you ponder that; the answer to your question is found in 1 Cor. 4, in 1 Cor. 9, and in 2 Cor. 10.

    In short, whenever you find yourself stuck like that, as to Corinthians; just read all of 1st and 2nd Corinthians, in light of Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The only people who could do those things were those who helped in laying the foundation.

    The foundation has been laid.

    No one can do those things anymore.
    No, moron, you "argued:"
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    Because Jesus obeyed we have him to obey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Well I was close.

    /Scot-Irish, German, just a smidgen of Dutch, for the most part...
    And last Friday, I observed in someone's back yard "Padi O'Furniture."


    Thud.
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    German, Irish, and Slovenian(my mom), musty. And I like long walks on the beach, bubble baths, walking under the moon light, after a spring rain, heart shaped chocolates.....
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    And Barry White/Manilow.
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    Yo - STP!

    Never mind that other place; we're meeting John "at the Copa...Copa Cabana!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    How are you approaching it - what's your method?

    While you ponder that; the answer to your question is found in 1 Cor. 4, in 1 Cor. 9, and in 2 Cor. 10.

    In short, whenever you find yourself stuck like that, as to Corinthians; just read all of 1st and 2nd Corinthians, in light of Romans.
    Well, what I couldn't see is what they were claiming. Then again, I never see any "there" there with their claims. I figured you were responding to what they claiming, but instead of telling me that, you tell me I'm stuck.

    That's like telling me I should study up on the law and the "new covenant" ....I'd be left wondering why they cited the verse they did to prove something.

    But, thanks for trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    And last Friday, I observed in someone's back yard "Padi O'Furniture."


    Thud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    And last Friday, I observed in someone's back yard "Padi O'Furniture."


    Thud.
    Where's the :dropmic: icon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Do you believe the Apostle Paul was a liar ?

    PAUL SAID:

    Eph 3:5
    Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;



    Eph 3:6
    That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    All the Apostles received the "mystery" by the Spirit according to the Apostle Paul ! Do you not believe Paul ?
    After Jesus saved Paul to send to the gentiles
    he showed Peter that salvation is to the gentiles
    in a new way , non proselytes, non circumcision .

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    After Jesus saved Paul to send to the gentiles
    he showed Peter that salvation is to the gentiles
    in a new way , non proselytes, non circumcision .
    FYI, all the Apostles after Jesus' resurrection preached the SAME GOSPEL.

    Do you understand that many many folks were saved before Paul ever got saved ?
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    FYI, all the Apostles after Jesus' resurrection preached the SAME GOSPEL.

    Do you understand that many many folks were saved before Paul ever got saved ?

    Hi and since SAVED / SOZO means to deliver , in that sense it is correct !!

    So IF they preached the same gospel , where do you go when you DIE ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and since SAVED / SOZO means to deliver , in that sense it is correct !!

    So IF they preached the same gospel , where do you go when you DIE ??

    dan p
    Don't know where your going when you die but I am going to be with Jesus when this life is over !
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    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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