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    Do those who believe MAD believe the Apostle Paul was a liar ?

    Do you believe the Apostle Paul was a liar ?

    PAUL SAID:

    Eph 3:5
    Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;



    Eph 3:6
    That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    All the Apostles received the "mystery" by the Spirit according to the Apostle Paul ! Do you not believe Paul ?
    PJ said: "belief" in Jesus, is not Paul's gospel .
    How can there be a another Gospel based on Gal. 1:22-23 ? The faith Paul once destroy post#20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    All the Apostles received the "mystery" by the Spirit according to the Apostle Paul ! Do you not believe Paul ?
    I received it by the Spirit so what point are you trying to make?

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    It contradicts the MAD doctrine that only Paul recieved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    It contradicts the MAD doctrine that only Paul recieved it.
    There you go again misrepresenting MAD. MAD teaches that Paul was the "first" to receive it, not that he was the only one to receive it. And there are many others who are not MAD who understand the same truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    I received it by the Spirit so what point are you trying to make?
    The point is the Apostle Paul was supposedly the only one that received the "mystery" of the Gospel to the gentiles , and Paul himself says that just aint so.

    You know 1 gospel for the Jews and 1 Gospel for the gentiles , which is WRONG there is only one Gospel.
    PJ said: "belief" in Jesus, is not Paul's gospel .
    How can there be a another Gospel based on Gal. 1:22-23 ? The faith Paul once destroy post#20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    It contradicts the MAD doctrine that only Paul recieved it.
    EXACTLY !
    PJ said: "belief" in Jesus, is not Paul's gospel .
    How can there be a another Gospel based on Gal. 1:22-23 ? The faith Paul once destroy post#20.

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    Those within MAD do not teach that Paul was the only one to receive the mystery. So cease from misrepresenting the teaching of MAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    It contradicts the MAD doctrine that only Paul recieved it.
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    You know 1 gospel for the Jews and 1 Gospel for the gentiles ,.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Those within MAD do not teach that Paul was the only one to receive the mystery. So cease from misrepresenting the teaching of MAD!

    They sure blow up a lot of bridges by saying Paul had one gospel (revealed secretly) while Peter had another! Oh well, you sure need to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Either Paul lied OR all the Apostles received the one GOSPEL the same way.


    PAUL SAID:

    Eph 3:5
    Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
    PJ said: "belief" in Jesus, is not Paul's gospel .
    How can there be a another Gospel based on Gal. 1:22-23 ? The faith Paul once destroy post#20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Those within MAD do not teach that Paul was the only one to receive the mystery. So cease from misrepresenting the teaching of MAD!
    I have been told EXACTLY that by many in MAD. How about if you do not like or agree with the thread just move along.

    You know the Gospel to the house of Israel and another Gospel for the gentiles, and FYI I did not misrepresent anyone.
    PJ said: "belief" in Jesus, is not Paul's gospel .
    How can there be a another Gospel based on Gal. 1:22-23 ? The faith Paul once destroy post#20.

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    To clarify: I think "Israel" should have known that their mission was not the same as had been under the monarchy as early as Isaiah. Or as Acts 13 says: David served God's purpose in that generation. It is no longer a purpose, because we know that God did not want a king anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Either Paul lied OR all the Apostles received the one GOSPEL the same way.


    PAUL SAID:

    Eph 3:5
    Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
    Think.
    Which holy apostles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Think.
    Which holy apostles?
    ALL of them according to Paul and also the prophets.

    STP, Paul was pretty specific he did say in other ages it wasn't made known and is now revealed unto his "holy apostles " and "prophets" by the Spirit.

    I believe to ignore this and still claim there are two gospels is not only disingenuous ,but if you cannot see the truth of what Paul taught how then can you claim to follow Paul ?

    Eph 3:5
    Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit.

    Eph 3:6
    That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    Notice Paul says by THE Gospel not by the Gospels.
    PJ said: "belief" in Jesus, is not Paul's gospel .
    How can there be a another Gospel based on Gal. 1:22-23 ? The faith Paul once destroy post#20.

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