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    to respond to acw's point:
    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    When a woman is raped ...
    in this case, that hasn't been determined

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    to respond to acw's point:

    in this case, that hasn't been determined
    as he acquitted a Halifax taxi driver of sexually assaulting an intoxicated passenger found partly naked and unconscious in the back of his cab.

    The cabdriver was acquitted of rape charges.

    Now that we've established that he was charged with rape (and acquitted of rape because a Judge says that drunks can consent), let's go from there.

    You stated on page 2

    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    The courts have found “mere drunkenness does not equate to incapacity, nor is imprudent decision-making, loss of inhibitions or self-control,” she said. Or, as another court decision put it: “a drunken consent is still a valid consent.”
    To which I reply:

    Was a blood alcohol test taken on the woman by the police to see what state of intoxication she was in?

    Was there video footage of the woman leaving the bar to see what state of intoxication she may have been in? (i.e. was she falling down drunk).

    Were bar patrons questioned or was there a copy of her bar receipt brought into evidence to show how much she had to drink?

    Let's keep in mind the past history of the accused rapist as well:

    "A 2015 search warrant application mentions other situations involving Al-Rawi and female passengers.

    One woman reported that Al-Rawi did not stop at her house, kept driving around the block while calling her "baby" and grabbed her hand and asked her to stay. The woman only wanted this information documented.


    In another situation, a woman reported being intoxicated and getting into a cab driven by Bassam Abdullatif. Abdullatif and Al-Rawi are the same person, according to the search warrant.

    Allegedly Al-Rawi took the woman up to his apartment and sexually assaulted her. The woman had limited recollection of the alleged assault."
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...ifax-1.2875142
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    You do realise, this is no more than a big PC debate thread?
    So, what?

    believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    When a woman is raped ...
    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    to respond to acw's point:

    in this case, that hasn't been determined
    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    (whole buncha nonsense clipped)

    yes, he was charged, tried and acquitted and it's under appeal at the moment


    he may have raped her

    or

    she may have consented

    if she consented, her consent may or may not have been legal based on her degree of intoxication and a really poorly written law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    You do realise, this is no more than a big PC debate thread?
    i'm interested in it for a number of reasons

    obviously, the issue of consent

    also, the media coverage - canada is very liberal - more so than the US

    and finally, the "muslim immigrant" wrinkle - the left has been very reluctant to attack mooslim immigrants who behave badly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    i'm interested in it for a number of reasons

    obviously, the issue of consent...
    The word most often used in Libertarian doctrine.
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    hush moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    hush moron
    Come on res..aka...aka..., you can at least attempt to defend the Libertarian doctrine of consent.

    You do that and I'll show the harm that has come to society because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    ... the Libertarian doctrine of consent.


    that would be a wonderful topic for a new thread - why don't you start one (and stop spamming this one) and we can all join in the discussion


    and here's a friendly hint - if you want people to join you in a discussion, don't attribute positions to them that they don't hold


    now scat

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    you're welcome anna - do you have anything to contribute to the thread topic?


    i'm waiting for the case to progress myself - don't have any idea how quickly the canadian judicial system moves

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    I think he raped her based on his history and behavior: him trying to hide her pants and undies and lying about why his pants were undone.
    <a href=http://theologyonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23146&d=1455650224 target=_blank>http://theologyonline.com/attachment...6&d=1455650224</a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    you're welcome anna - do you have anything to contribute to the thread topic?


    i'm waiting for the case to progress myself - don't have any idea how quickly the canadian judicial system moves
    You locked it right after I posted that (my timing was perfect! ), and now you've unlocked it again.

    I'll wait to see if the thread stays open, I don't want to post on an intermittently opened and closed thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    You locked it right after I posted that (my timing was perfect! ), and now you've unlocked it again.

    I'll wait to see if the thread stays open, I don't want to post on an intermittently opened and closed thread.

    You knew that when you said :
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    In before the next lock!
    Youre a hypocrite aren't you?
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