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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Yes. It is an execution.
    Then why would you see anything wrong with an extremist launching a pipe bomb into one those clinics?
    If you see abortion the same, you would see nothing more than a soldier liberating hostages.

    That's sort of what I'm talking about- it's an artificial conviction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    Then why would you see anything wrong with an extremist launching a pipe bomb into one those clinics?
    If you see abortion the same, you would see nothing more than a soldier liberating hostages.
    Maybe that's right.

    Either way, my view of how it should be fought does not at all determine whether it is murder or not.
    Is it the deliberate ending of an innocent human life?
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    I believe abortion is a necessary evil . It's a very unpleasant thing to happen , but absolutely inevitable. Murder of BORN people is done out of malice . But abortion is not done out of malice .
    If women never had abortions, the world would be an even more miserable place than it is . We would have more and more , desperately poor, hungry, malnourished , neglected and abused children in the world. More children growing up in terrible housing , lacking medical care , education , a chance to make it in life . This causes a vicious cycle of more and more poverty, hunger and helplessness .
    More and more children whose intelligence would be stunted by growing up malnourished from
    birth . We already have so many children growing up like this .
    Would Albert Einstein have been able to become a great scientist if he had been born into abject poverty and malnutrition ? No .
    This is why it's so important to make sure that women who give birth to children are able to provide good care , housing, nutrition and medical care for them .
    And the reason why he prosperous countries of western Europe and Scandinavia have the world's LOWEST abortion rates . Women don't find themselves in the kind of averse circumstances which cause abortion in the first place .
    So if you voted for Trump, you voted for a president who is going to cause a steep INCREASE in the abortion rate in America by depriving the poor , and especially poor women of the help they need to prevent abortion . Oh the irony !

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    I believe abortion is a necessary evil


    what makes it evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what makes it evil?
    Why won't he just plainly state what he obviously believes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    We would have more and more , desperately poor, hungry, malnourished , neglected and abused children in the world.
    And all of those children would be better off dead? Then why not kill them, too?

    Why is it that the mother of an unwanted child gets to decide that that child's life is not worth living? It isn't her life, to take away. Would it not be more just to allow the child to decide for himself whether he wants to be alive or be killed?

    How, in a just society, do we allow one person to decide that someone else's life isn't worth living?
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    there's twenty million children in south sudan that horn thinks would be better off dead, apparently

    and a whole bunch in syria, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    there's twenty million children in south sudan that horn thinks would be better off dead, apparently

    and a whole bunch in syria, too
    By Horn's standard, just about every human in history should have been aborted.
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    What a ridiculous and arbitrary standard it is, too. If a human will suffer in life, he ought not live? That's literally all humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    By Horn's standard, just about every human in history should have been aborted.
    except for the wealthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    How far into pregnancy are you ok with abortion and what's your reasoning for it being acceptable prior to that time?
    Personally, around the 20th week when the fetus begins developing the capacity to feel pain.


    the neurons that extend from the spinal cord into the brain need to reach all the way to the area of the brain where pain is perceived. This does not occur until between 23 and 24 weeks, link



    Plus the risks to mother regarding late term abortions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Personally, around the 20th week when the fetus begins developing the capacity to feel pain.


    the neurons that extend from the spinal cord into the brain need to reach all the way to the area of the brain where pain is perceived. This does not occur until between 23 and 24 weeks, link



    Plus the risks to mother regarding late term abortions.
    if the baby could be killed painlessly, would you have any qualms?

    if the risk to the mother could be minimized as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    if the baby could be killed painlessly, would you have any qualms?

    if the risk to the mother could be minimized as well?
    Why does he even care if the baby does feel pain while he or she is killed? Why is that something worth avoiding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Why does he even care if the baby does feel pain while he or she is killed? Why is that something worth avoiding?
    Put your left hand on a table or workbench...now with your right hand grab a hammer.

    Now proceed to smash your left hand with the hammer until you can't stand the pain anymore.

    Now, what was the question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    if the baby could be killed painlessly, would you have any qualms?

    if the risk to the mother could be minimized as well?
    Barring any untoward circumstances...its my view she should have chosen to abort prior to this late stage of development.
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