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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    It seems that you're of the extremist's opinion that if you believe abortion is not murder thus you must encourage abortion.
    You're logic is flawed...perhaps influenced.
    Nope. I didn't say I expect Horn to encourage it. I just asked why he considered it "disastrous."

    Do you consider it disastrous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Nope. I didn't say I expect Horn to encourage it. I just asked why he considered it "disastrous."

    Do you consider it disastrous?
    We'll see....

    The senario can be, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    We'll see....
    What do you mean?


    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    The senario can be, yes.
    What's disastrous about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    What do you mean?




    What's disastrous about it?
    What's not disastrous about it: a potential child is lost; mother's health/life in danger; parents forced to abort their child for health reasons.

    Even if you're pro-choice doesn't mean you favor increasing these scenarios.
    You agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    What's not disastrous about it: a potential child is lost; mother's health/life in danger; parents forced to abort their child for health reasons.

    Even if you're pro-choice doesn't mean you favor increasing these scenarios.
    You agree?
    Um... forced to abort their child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Um... forced to abort their child?
    Yes, peril to the mother; birth defects. (I forgot rape and incest on my prior list)

    Oh ...you're mincing terms. Yes, from the perspective of expecting parents...a child was what they were expecting...yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Yes, peril to the mother; birth defects. (I forgot rape and incest on my prior list)

    Oh ...you're mincing terms. Yes, from the perspective of expecting parents...a child was what they were expecting...yes?

    Expanding upon personal perspective is always good policy...especially so when the subject is abortion. You disagree jester?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Yes, peril to the mother; birth defects. (I forgot rape and incest on my prior list)

    Oh ...you're mincing terms. Yes, from the perspective of expecting parents...a child was what they were expecting...yes?
    I do not see how increasing abortions would increase those other things.

    And I do not see (from an abortion-is-not-murder perspective) how an increase in abortions is any more disastrous than an increase in birth control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Expanding upon personal perspective is always good policy...especially so when the subject is abortion. You disagree jester?
    I don't know what you mean by expanding on personal perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    I do not see how increasing abortions would increase those other things.

    And I do not see (from an abortion-is-not-murder perspective) how an increase in abortions is any more disastrous than an increase in birth control.
    It would simply compound an already disasterous situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    I don't know what you mean by expanding on personal perspective.

    Seems an all too oft conservative condition.

    Expanding upon..

    Simply put: walk a mile in another's shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    It would simply compound an already disasterous situation?
    So is abortion, in and of itself, bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Seems an all too oft conservative condition.

    Simply put: walk a mile in another's shoes.
    My mistake - I thought you were referring to law when you said it would be good policy.

    In that context, it didn't seem to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    So is abortion, in and of itself, bad?
    No
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    Glassjester, of course I want to prevent as many abortions as possible in America .All pro-choicers do .
    We're not pro-choice because we like abortion and want them to happen, and no pro-choicer wants the abortion rate in America to increase . We're pro-choice because we're realistic enough to realize that making abortion illegal again would be disastrously counterproductive and only INCREASE the abortion rate enormously and cause the deaths of an enormous number of poor women .
    Trying to stop abortion by making it illegal is like trying to stop a forest fire by pouring gasoline on it .

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