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    Anti-Christ Spirit of Spiritual Death Exposed

    Introduction


    There is a single Anti-Christ that will come one day, but we know that the Devil is the picture and leader of the Anti-Christ Spirit. There are only two leading "S(s)pirits" in this world. There is the Spirit of God and there is the spirit of Satan (Adversary to God)... because no man can serve two masters (Mt. 6:24).

    I'm not going to call any individual out..., but I am going to drop some names of people I would like to hear me out on this matter. I count you allies in this battle and some of you already knew this, but some of you might be shocked that I am acknowledging you as my "ally" in this matter.

    Before we expose the Anti-Christ Spirit within some, I want to address the matter to my fellow believers in God's absolute TriUne expression. If we are divided on this matter, we will have no grounds to fully unite in a way that will bring this Anti-Christ Spirit to its knees.

    Calvinist Address
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    Calvinists that I count equipped for this battle... @Lon and @Ask Mr. Religion. I appreciate that you both exalt the TriUne mechanism that God has used to unite, Lovingly with us, through. I can't deny that I am a "Trinitarian", but I am Jewish by blood and I believe it's time you drop the accusations of "Modalism" towards those of us who are Monotheist Trinitarians. You are both takers of an undiscussed oath to be like WOLVES towards WOLVES that would harm God's sheep, by being "Calvinists". Please hear me out.

    We have to be able to express our Monotheism in clarity towards the Anti-Christ spirit, because it is a vile spirit within sincere people that seeks to divide all who understand that Jesus is God and He is truly ONE (Dt. 6:4 and Rv. 4:2). So I will do you a respectful favor and say thank you for reinforcing the TriUne Mechanism of God relating Lovingly towards us. I would like to recommend some doctrinal updates.

    Solutions, Not Problems


    "Subsistence" is the first place to start. The word Subsistence means... the action or fact of maintaining or supporting oneself at a minimum level. I would recommend we replace the word Subsistence with "Expression". "Expression" means... the process of making known one's thoughts or feelings.. and... the look on someone's face that conveys a particular emotion. This bolsters the fact that the Spirit (Father), Face of God (The Logos Son) and the Presence of God within us (Holy Spirit) is... not are... is... all God, our Monotheistic ONE.

    The second thing I want to recommend is that we take a note from the Biblical response to Jesus words and His Deity. In (Mt. 28:19) we have a very Trinitarian baptism that identifies the Three that Testify (1 Jn. 5:7). But as early as Acts, we see the post Jesus Christ response as this… (Acts 2:38 and Acts 19:5). The apostles of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ weren’t “Doctrinally" afraid to Name the FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT... "Jesus Christ". We see this again in (Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 and Philippians 1:19) in reference to the Holy Spirit. To call the Father Jesus and still acknowledge the Trinity is a giant theological leap! However, the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST, or book of REVELATION starts with JESUS CHRST speaking through the Apostle John, from the Island of Patmos. It has such high points as Revelation 4:2f where we only see ONE sitting in the throne and of-coarse the giant reveal that Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega in Revelation 22:13.

    I have gone to great lengths to express this and if you need more biblical evidence, I have so much evidence, that it is literally incontrovertible. I would even be willing to have an official debate over this matter moderated by the mods with you if you don’t believe me. I wouldn’t be utilizing any other reference than the good old 66. It is so full of support for my assertions, that I would feel guilty entering a spectated debate on the matter. It would make me look like a theological ace and I have absolute faith that the Bible itself would declare me the victor. To be precise, (John 5:39) is a death nail. If that isn’t enough, I am now theologically capable on explaining the connection of (Gn. 1:3, 26; John 1:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14; 14:7f, 9; 1 John 1:1, 2; Gal. 4:6, Dt. 6:4) … and many other verses that are implicit on the matter in a way that is irrefutable, and still supportive of the “Trinity”.

    Let us look at this which has gone ignored, but has been available for much time now.
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    This happened on another thread... but... it fits.
    Let's focus on your statement highlighted in red that is backed by scripture... (The person I was addressing acknowledged that the Son is Equal to the Father). And.. yet... by my personal understanding... The Spirit is beyond time and the Logos is within time. But... that's a long and uphill debate, though scripture makes it pretty downhill.

    Philippians 2:5-11 ...Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

    Here, we see Jesus is indeed Equal to God. Why did God "send" Jesus? (Is. 43:11) I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior... This is the Mighty Father speaking through His prophet, Isaiah. (Luke 2:21) And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.... conceived by Whome? (Matthew 1:18) Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: ... she was found with child of the Holy Spirit... why did God "send" Jesus? (Luke 2:11) For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. ... So... Jesus is born of the Holy Spirit, through Mary.. conceived within womb by the Holy Spirit... YHWH clearly says HE ALONE is Savior and Jesus is angelically declared the Savior, that John 3:16f affirms.

    7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

    Here we can see that Jesus was not only the very LOGOS or FORM and PRESENCE of God, but He, by His own AUTHORITY, chose to liken himself unto a lowly bond servant of GOD, "His Father". Something is off here... Jesus would then be the image of God! (Colossians 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Here we have two serious theological issues... first... God said; (Is. 46:9) Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, This would be a problem, because the only time we see God, it is considered the "GLORY" of God the Father. It would mean that Jesus is the literal, Physical Manifestation of God... and... continuitivly... we have 1 Tim. 3:16... The second hurdle is the implications of the title "FIRST BORN". WHO but GOD can take GOD's PLACE if (Isaiah 46:9) is true?

    8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.

    Why would He do this? (Hebrews 2:14 in light of 1 Tim. 3:16) Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, What ended up empowering the devil? (1 Cor. 15:54f,56f) 56 The sting (that sounds like a serpent bite) of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. So Jesus had authority over God's Law? Jesus is our victory, thus, He is our Savior? (Is. 43:11)

    That's odd! That would make Jesus (Isaiah 9:6)!

    (Php. 2:10f) that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    Does that verse look familiar?

    (Isaiah 45:23f) I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath. So... God swears by Himself? This sounds a lot like (Mt. 22:44) ... But more interesting... Do you see that the Name of Jesus is now in the place of YHWH? It's like the Apostle cut out YHWH and pasted Jesus' name right in there?!?!

    What's so important about all of these verses?

    The Hebrew Scroll of Isaiah that was found in the Dead Sea scrolls, is the oldest of all known scrolls in Hebrew that is completely intact. It surpasses even the SEPTUAGINT in Authority, because it is in original HEBREW! Sooooo..... Where do we go from here?

    Let's see that one more time!

    23 I have sworn by Myself;
    The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
    And shall not return,
    That to Me every knee shall bow,
    Every tongue shall take an oath.
    24.He shall say,
    ‘Surely in the Lord I have righteousness and strength.
    To Him men shall come
    ,

    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    So if I Bow to Jesus and confess HIM as my MASTER or LORD... (Mt. 6:24 + Isaiah 45:5) ... I'm doing so TO The GLORY of the FATHER?
    Glory of the Father? Where have I seen that before?


    Wait!!! That would mean that JESUS is the very GLORY and PHYSICAL manifestation of (Av-'ad or The Mighty Father!!!!) (Is. 9:6).
    Notice how this all dropped into place and I didn't have to change one word of scripture to do so? I wonder why that is?
    Nuff Said on my proposed solutions to sharpening our scriptural thrust against the Spirit of the Anti-Christ.

    This has been hard for me because I dislike pointing out Spiritual Death


    I haven't even begun to express the myrid of scriptures and writeups I've been blessed to write up on the fact that saying Jesus Christ is saying the name of God. But this is where I have been headed. So let's get to the matter.

    (1 John 4:3; 2 John 1:7; 1 Tim. 3:16)

    1 John 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

    1 Tim. 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
    God was manifested in the flesh,
    Justified in the Spirit,
    Seen by angels,
    Preached among the Gentiles,
    Believed on in the world,
    Received up in glory.

    If you realize that Jesus Messiah (Christ) is the FULL name of God and the apostle Paul made a mult-dimensional statement about this that gives the equation to utter "church" unity and the understanding of the utter Monotheistic Unity of God in (1 Co. 1:13)

    You will fully understand how demonic the Anti-Christ Spirit is that led me to generate this OP. I will omit the name of the person that posted this, but please tell me if you can see the absolute hate that is being generated towards our Lord (John 20:28), God (Is. 45:5) and Savior (Is. 43:11)... Jesus Christ (Messiah).

    Quote Originally Posted by Name and link ommited to protect this OP
    That is both too sad and too hilarious; you are exhorting others to be united with you against Ruach Elohim, against Ruach Meshiah, against Ruach Melki Tzedek, and against his Father and our Father, and it is all so that you can have your flesh "God-Man" born of a woman.
    @Jerry Shugart @Bright Raven @patrick jane @steko @Tambora @Sherman @JudgeRightly Please check my work and PM me on the matter. I am not "Anti-Trinitarian". I am, however, Anti-Blasphemy against Jesus.

    @serpentdove ... I am acknowledging you as fully equipped for this battle. Please check my work and PM me on the matter. Consider this my olive branch towards you.
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    (Mk. 10:18) So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

    (Joh. 10:11) I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep

    (Ps. 23) The Lord The Shepherd of His People
    A Psalm of David.
    1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    2 He makes me to lie down in green pastures;
    He leads me beside the still waters.
    3 He restores my soul;
    He leads me in the paths of righteousness
    For His name’s sake.
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    I made some scripture corrections... Mt. 28:19 ... Rv. 22:13 and Rv. 4:2f. I'll add any others that I catch.
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    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    A little long, so please forgive and read when you have the time: Spirit cannot be divided so some agreement with you regarding modality of the Godhead (-une). It is important, however, to discuss in what sense we are also tri- and I will do so here briefly in a moment... We really have not lived in that sense that we think of a realm other than our own and our existence is material, 3-D, and finite. So, for us, we all view a world that is 1) Only physical for much of our disciplines. Science bumps against Christianity, for instance, simply because it cannot work without a net (a physical one). 2) 3-Dimensional. We move about space that is created in this physical plane. We know there are likely other dimensions, but most people have a hard time grasping those. The rest of us a) have a limitation to what we logically perceive and b) cannot really explain that to people who get it even less than we, that there are other potential dimensions. It MUST be so, because God is Spirit AND we cannot see Him but know He exists. 3) We and all we see is finite (has limits). We cannot understand much in this universe without limits but scriptures talk about God as All-knowing, All-present, all-powerful etc.

    We all know God never had a beginning. What we don't know, is how that is possible. We cannot conceive of a past that 'is still going' eternally, but the odd-concept of 'still-going' expresses the eternal non-beginning in terms where at least our minds can get boggled.

    To this point, I've not mentioned scriptures, but rather the limits of our thinking as finite, physical, beings. We tend to think of God in the same terms we experience, but God has told us no 'place' is big enough for Him, so we know Spirit is something beyond us. God has told us He isn't like a man, so we know God's experience is well beyond our concepts. We know God is eternal: no beginnings and ends (literally without time). He 'interacts' with us in time, but the expression of no beginning or end is the concept of all time. There HAS to be a beginning and an end else "No time" exists.

    So, in a nutshell, I agree with you: God cannot be divided into parts. We are tri - une. A huge chunk of that is modal (-une).

    Rather, what we believe as Trinitarians, is that God does something unique when He involves Himself with us in time and in our physicality: He enters our domain as something we relate to. John says "No man has seen God, but God the Son, has made Him known." It is a difficulty because scripture calls God, Jesus' God as well.

    We then, as far as I understand scriptures, have to see there is only one God (modal). We have to see that Jesus accepts worship as God. We have to see that Genesis 1 says "God" created the world and read Colossians 1 to understand that God, was the Lord Jesus Christ. Such information creates a tight-rope walk that requires, as far as I'm concerned, an acceptance of scriptures as they are give as well as a familiarity with them. A LOT of people come to conclusions BEFORE they ever read their entire bible. I believe it is a huge factor for why there are Arians (two gods) and modalists (Jesus was really the Father and never prayed to Him). I HAVE to account for my understanding after faithfully reading the entire scriptures multiple times. For me, simply believing, embracing and not dismissing, all scriptures, must necessarily lead to some sort of position that recognizes Jesus is separate from God the Father, yet at the same time, is "One" with Him where there are no other gods, before or after." I believe such a position then, is called tri-une or 'trinity.'

    Humbly submitted in Christ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    A little long, so please forgive and read when you have the time: Spirit cannot be divided so some agreement with you regarding modality of the Godhead (-une). It is important, however, to discuss in what sense we are also tri- and I will do so here briefly in a moment... We really have not lived in that sense that we think of a realm other than our own and our existence is material, 3-D, and finite. So, for us, we all view a world that is 1) Only physical for much of our disciplines. Science bumps against Christianity, for instance, simply because it cannot work without a net (a physical one). 2) 3-Dimensional. We move about space that is created in this physical plane. We know there are likely other dimensions, but most people have a hard time grasping those. The rest of us a) have a limitation to what we logically perceive and b) cannot really explain that to people who get it even less than we, that there are other potential dimensions. It MUST be so, because God is Spirit AND we cannot see Him but know He exists. 3) We and all we see is finite (has limits). We cannot understand much in this universe without limits but scriptures talk about God as All-knowing, All-present, all-powerful etc.

    We all know God never had a beginning. What we don't know, is how that is possible. We cannot conceive of a past that 'is still going' eternally, but the odd-concept of 'still-going' expresses the eternal non-beginning in terms where at least our minds can get boggled.

    To this point, I've not mentioned scriptures, but rather the limits of our thinking as finite, physical, beings. We tend to think of God in the same terms we experience, but God has told us no 'place' is big enough for Him, so we know Spirit is something beyond us. God has told us He isn't like a man, so we know God's experience is well beyond our concepts. We know God is eternal: no beginnings and ends (literally without time). He 'interacts' with us in time, but the expression of no beginning or end is the concept of all time. There HAS to be a beginning and an end else "No time" exists.

    So, in a nutshell, I agree with you: God cannot be divided into parts. We are tri - une. A huge chunk of that is modal (-une).

    Rather, what we believe as Trinitarians, is that God does something unique when He involves Himself with us in time and in our physicality: He enters our domain as something we relate to. John says "No man has seen God, but God the Son, has made Him known." It is a difficulty because scripture calls God, Jesus' God as well.

    We then, as far as I understand scriptures, have to see there is only one God (modal). We have to see that Jesus accepts worship as God. We have to see that Genesis 1 says "God" created the world and read Colossians 1 to understand that God, was the Lord Jesus Christ. Such information creates a tight-rope walk that requires, as far as I'm concerned, an acceptance of scriptures as they are give as well as a familiarity with them. A LOT of people come to conclusions BEFORE they ever read their entire bible. I believe it is a huge factor for why there are Arians (two gods) and modalists (Jesus was really the Father and never prayed to Him). I HAVE to account for my understanding after faithfully reading the entire scriptures multiple times. For me, simply believing, embracing and not dismissing, all scriptures, must necessarily lead to some sort of position that recognizes Jesus is separate from God the Father, yet at the same time, is "One" with Him where there are no other gods, before or after." I believe such a position then, is called tri-une or 'trinity.'

    Humbly submitted in Christ,

    -Lon
    @Lon ,

    Now that sounds like the words of a hot rod for the gospel, Powered by infinite Spirit that is under the hood and revs to the sound of multidimensional One that Revs with sound of 3!

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    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    John 8:12 is a strong supporting scripture of my assertion when placed parallel to Gn. 1:3
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    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    John 8:12 is a strong supporting scripture of my assertion when placed parallel to Gn. 1:3
    John 8: 12; Are not the words of the man Jesus, but the words of 'WHO I AM' who chose the man Jesus from among the Israelites, and after filling him with his spirit, sent him to speak in his name.

    John 5: 24; I am telling you the truth, whoever hears my words and believes in 'HIM' who sent me, has eternal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-word View Post
    John 8: 12; Are not the words of the man Jesus, but the words of 'WHO I AM' who chose the man Jesus from among the Israelites, and after filling him with his spirit, sent him to speak in his name.

    John 5: 24; I am telling you the truth, whoever hears my words and believes in 'HIM' who sent me, has eternal life.
    (John 10:30; 1 Tim. 3:16; Colossians 1:15; John 14:7; Dt. 6:4; Is. 9:6: Is. 45:5; Is. 43:11; Lk. 2:11, 21)
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    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

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    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    (John 10:30; 1 Tim. 3:16; Colossians 1:15; John 14:7; Dt. 6:4; Is. 9:6: Is. 45:5; Is. 43:11; Lk. 2:11, 21)

    We are just going to town and the wife is pushing me to leave, so I will first respond to John 10: 30; "Who was the spiritual Father of the man Jesus if not, the SON of Man Who descended upon him in the form of a dove as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my Son, 'THIS DAY' I have begotten thee."

    I'll be back tonight to respond to the rest of your biblical quotes, Time permitting and God willing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-word View Post
    We are just going to town and the wife is pushing me to leave, so I will first respond to John 10: 30; "Who was the spiritual Father of the man Jesus if not, the SON of Man Who descended upon him in the form of a dove as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my Son, 'THIS DAY' I have begotten thee."

    I'll be back tonight to respond to the rest of your biblical quotes, Time permitting and God willing.
    Sounds like your wife is being used by God to keep your Anti-Christ, Jesus Christ (Messiah) Hating... dead bones, 1 Tim. 3:16 denying, scriptural twisting, demon doctrine quiet.

    @GraceBunny, my wife, encouraged me to start this OP. Holy Spirit clue?

    Get one, Messiah Denier!
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    ...I am not "Anti-Trinitarian". I am, however, Anti-Blasphemy against Jesus...
    What does that mean? Was the baby in the manger fully God and fully man? Is he risen bodily? Was there ever a time when Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1

    Recommended reading:

    The Jewish Trinity: How the Old Testament Reveals the Christian Godhead by Michael S. Heiser

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    What does that mean? Was the baby in the manger fully God and fully man? Is he risen bodily? Was there ever a time when Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1

    Recommended reading:

    The Jewish Trinity: How the Old Testament Reveals the Christian Godhead by Michael S. Heiser
    It means that at the heart of the "Trinity" is the revelation of the utter oneness of God. It means that I am trinitarian and able to scripturally assert that Jesus is the very face of God and the Lord God (Logos) bound to humanity in flesh... 1 Tim. 3:16...

    : )
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
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    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    [Was the baby in the manger fully God and fully man? Is he risen bodily? Was there ever a time when Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1 ] It means that at the heart of the "Trinity" is the revelation of the utter oneness of God. It means that I am trinitarian and able to scripturally assert that Jesus is the very face of God and the Lord God (Logos) bound to humanity in flesh... 1 Tim. 3:16...
    These are yes or no questions. Was the baby in the manger fully God and fully man? Is he risen bodily? Was there ever a time when Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    These are yes or no questions. Was the baby in the manger fully God and fully man?
    Yes! But without sin... : )

    Quote Originally Posted by Sr. Dv.
    Is he risen bodily?
    Yes!

    Quote Originally Posted by SD
    Was there ever a time when Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1
    No! Infinite
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
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    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Yes...[y]es...No
    "...I believe I can hang out with you fellas for a while." ~ Billy Ray Valentine, Trading Places

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