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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Hmmmmm... And yet you dug this old thread up and continually deny Is. 9:6.

    Have fun with that.
    So you think the Lord speaks to Himself?

    Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
    Psa 110:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
    Psa 110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
    Psa 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
    Psa 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
    Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
    Psa 110:7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

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    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    That verse always brings the roaches out of the woodwork, doesn't it?
    Your modalism is noted.

    You also deny the Son.

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    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daqq View Post
    Your version of Isa 9:6 was already addressed in another one of your own call-out threads, (Congratulations Daqq, This Thread is just for you. (Exposing your Deceit) Reply#2, Reply#69) and because of that you locked the thread so that I could not respond to your false accusations anymore, (and then accused me later of "walling up" your thread after the wall you yourself posted in OP). That is cowardly: you posted a call-out thread with my name in the title and locked it so that I could not respond to your false accusations. LA also appears to be correct in saying that you actually deny the Son because you essentially make the Son into the Father and subconsciously "delete" the One who is the Father according to all of the Tanakh, (whose name is YHWH, whom you replace with the Son because you actually detest the Torah and Word of the Father). You get away with your form of occasional Modalism by claiming to be "Tri-Unitarian" which appears to be nothing more than a fancy label meaning modalism, without having to actually admit it, so that Trinitarians will not reject your modalist hat-switching rubbish.
    Yes EE is a cunning deceiver.

    Another bigshot.

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    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Yes EE is a cunning deceiver.

    Another bigshot.

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    So... God is helpless to defend His scriptures from the "taint" of men? Is. 9:6 is a lie?

    You and Daqq take "Big" Shots at defaming the integrity of scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    So... God is helpless to defend His scriptures from the "taint" of men? Is. 9:6 is a lie?

    You and Daqq take "Big" Shots at defaming the integrity of scripture.

    - EE
    I quoted that scripture. Your idea of "integrity of scripture" only refers to YOUR PRIVATE interpretation and version of the scripture. However YOUR version of what it says is a blatant falsehood and is easily disproven for anyone willing to open their eyes and see it. This has been proven three times already and twice in your own call-out thread which you then locked because of that very fact. You cannot handle the truth because your thick black paradigm blinders will not allow for anything other than your own self-deception. The YLT was just posted again on the previous page: why have you ignored it once again? Why do you have no comment? It is because you know your are wrong and the only choice you have now is to attempt to discredit and defame those who actually understand what it says. This you do knowing that you are wrong; so it is intentional, deceiving, and hateful.

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    While I still do not totally agree with the Young's Literal Bible Translation at least he was not afraid to render it for what it truly says in the most critical portion, and this is shown by how the same word form is rendered in many, many, other places:

    Isaiah 9:6 YLT
    6 For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power [הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה] is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name [וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ] Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.


    That is indeed what the text says, "HE CALLS HIS NAME", and this changes the whole meaning of what the Prophet is saying because the one who is on the neck or shoulder of the son who is given, (on his neck means, "his yoke"), is Ha-mSARah, that is, the Arche, the Empire, the Dominion, the Head, the Beginning. In other words the son that is given has Ha-mSARah on his neck or shoulder, (and his yoke is χρηστος-chestos-gracious just as he says), and HE CALLS HIS NAME the title or titles which follow in the passage, which are also not likely rendered correctly because of inaccurate vowel pointing in the Masorete Hebrew Text done by those who rejected the Messiah,
    (אביעד = "my father-progenitor of testimony" - "My Testimony Progenitor-Father", i.e. "the Progenitor of my Testimony", [or עד may even mean "witness" just as it is often rendered]).

    PS - "Abiy" is "my Father", (not just "Father" as the English versions like to imagine).
    Go ahead and see if you can prove me wrong.


    VaYikra (Leviticus) - "And He called" . . .

    And that link is simply to show why the book of Leviticus is called VaYikra to begin with; for that is the opening phrase for Leviticus, (Va·yikra), and it is the same phrase under discussion and debate in Isaiah 9:6.

    Thus:

    Isaiah 9:6
    9:6 כִּי־ ki- [For] יֶ֣לֶד yeled [a child] יֻלַּד־ yulad- [is born] לָ֗נוּ la·nu [unto us] בֵּ֚ן ben [a son] נִתַּן־ nitan- [is given] לָ֔נוּ la·nu [unto us] וַתְּהִ֥י va·tehi [and will rest] הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה ha·misrah [the princely empire power] עַל־ 'al- [upon] שִׁכְמ֑וֹ shikm
    ·ow [his neck-shoulder] וַיִּקְרָ֨א va·yikra [and he shall call] שְׁמ֜וֹ shem·ow [his name] פֶּ֠לֶא Phele [too wonderful] יוֹעֵץ֙ yo'etz [counsel-counselor] אֵ֣ל 'el [El] גִּבּ֔וֹר gibbor [Mighty] אֲבִיעַ֖ד 'avi'ad [my Father-Progenitor · Testimony-Witness-Everlasting] שַׂר־ sar- [Prince] שָׁלֽוֹם׃ shalom [of Peace].

    Isaiah 9:6
    9:6 For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us, and the Princely Empire Power shall rest upon his shoulder: and he shall call His name, Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibbor-Abi
    ad-Sar-Shalom.

    The son that is given calls the Princely Power upon his shoulder all those things.
    If one might begin with Pele then see Judges 13:18, (Peli - "too wonderful").

    Judges 13:18
    18 And the Malak of YHWH said to him, Why ask you thus for my name? It is Peli!


    Peli ~ secret, too wonderful, wondrous, wonder working, (Palmoni, "Wonderful numberer" Dan 8:13 YLT).

    Moreover the above is no doubt why the Kohanim and Yhudim who rendered the LXX-Septuagint rendered at least the first portion of the passage, (in bold and bold italics), in the following manner:

    Esaias 9:6 (9:5) OG LXX-Septuagint
    9:6 (9:5) οτι παιδιον εγεννηθη ημιν υιος και εδοθη ημιν ου
    η αρχη εγενηθη επι του ωμου αυτου και καλειται το ονομα αυτου μεγαλης βουλης αγγελος εγω γαρ αξω ειρηνην επι τους αρχοντας ειρηνην και υγιειαν αυτω
    http://bibledatabase.net/html/septuagint/23_009.htm

    Isaiah 9:6 OG LXX-Septuagint
    9:6 (9:5) For a child is born unto us, and a son is given unto us, of whom
    the Arche shall be upon his shoulder: and he shall call his name, Messenger of Great Counsel, for I will bring peace upon the princes; peace and health by him.

    According to the Septuagint those who rendered the phrase "El Gibbor" seem to have understood "El" here as "Messenger", (El Gibbor, "Great Messenger" or "Mighty Messenger"), in much the same way that occasionally, in other places such as the Psalms, (cf. Psa 8:5, Heb 2:7, 9), Elohim is/are understood as Messenger/Messengers, (Angels). That seems to be where their understanding of αγγελος-angelos herein is derived, that is, "Messenger", coming from the word for El, (אל). Thus they did not read yoetz as "a counselor" but simply as counsel:

    פלא יועץ אל גבור
    pele yoetz el gibor : mighty messenger of wonderful counsel

    μεγαλης βουλης αγγελος
    megales boules aggelos : mighty messenger of (wonderful) counsel

    This is likely the reading which the Apostolic authors also had before them because the "tampering charge" certainly does not fit in this instance; for certainly no "Trinitarian scribe" would have come along and changed the reading to make it say this!

    εγω γαρ αξω ειρηνην επι τους αρχοντας
    "for I will bring peace to/upon the princes"

    That is the full word abi`ad being read not as "my father of eternity" but as "I will bring (abi) to/unto (H5704 עַד `ad (prep.))", and similar readings can be shown from other places where abi is compounded to make other words which do indeed mean "I will bring" such as the following passages, (among others).

    Genesis 42:37
    וַיֹּאמֶר רְאוּבֵן אֶל־אָבִיו לֵאמֹר אֶת־שְׁנֵי בָנַי תָּמִית אִם־לֹא אֲבִיאֶנּוּ אֵלֶיךָ תְּנָה אֹתֹו עַל־יָדִי וַאֲנִי אֲשִׁיבֶנּוּ אֵלֶֽיךָ׃

    (if not) "I bring him" — אֲבִיאֶ֖נּוּ

    Isaiah 43:5
    אַל־תִּירָא כִּי אִתְּךָ־אָנִי מִמִּזְרָח אָבִיא זַרְעֶךָ וּמִֽמַּעֲרָב אֲקַבְּצֶֽךָּ׃

    "I will bring" — אָבִ֣יא

    Isaiah 60:17
    תַּחַת הַנְּחֹשֶׁת אָבִיא זָהָב וְתַחַת הַבַּרְזֶל אָבִיא כֶסֶף וְתַחַת הָֽעֵצִים נְחֹשֶׁת וְתַחַת הָאֲבָנִים בַּרְזֶל וְשַׂמְתִּי פְקֻדָּתֵךְ שָׁלֹום וְנֹגְשַׂיִךְ צְדָקָֽה׃

    "I will bring" — אָבִ֣יא

    So they in the Septuagint are reading abi`ad, (אבי
    עד), from Isa 9:6 as one word meaning "I will bring to/unto/upon", and it is indeed written as a single compound word, (as opposed to something like אבי־עד).

    Isaiah 9:6 WLC (Consonants Only)
    כי־ילד ילד־לנו בן נתן־לנו ותהי המשרה על־שכמו ויקרא שמו פלא יועץ אל גבור אביעד שר־שלום׃

    אביעד שר־שלום
    אבי — I bring, (or "my father")
    עד — H5704 עַד — to/unto/upon, (or H5703 עַד perpetuity, or H5707 עֵד witness)
    שר־שלום — Sar-Shalom

    The point above is not that the Septuagint must absolutely be the correct reading but that they certainly understood ancient Hebrew and were much, much, closer to the original text and much less removed from an understanding of it than those of modern times. And yet they did not see abi`ad, (אביעד), anywhere close to how it is understood by today's modern scholarship. Also one must remember that they did not have the vowel pointing which came a thousand years later with the Masorete Hebrew text.

    The ultimate point is this: the Trinitarian readings are nothing more than opinions.

    Isaiah 9:6
    9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the Power of the Empire shall rest upon the yoke of his neck: and he shall call his name,
    Wonderful Counsel Mighty Messenger, My Father's Witness, the Prince of Peace.

    If the Father kiss you on the neck; no doubt the kingdom of Elohim is upon you!


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    ויקרא = "and he calls", "and he called", or "and he shall call" (not "and he shall be called").

    It is tragic that Glorydaz and Evil.Eye count such things as the stuff of cockroaches, (#209).

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    Quote Originally Posted by daqq View Post
    ויקרא = "and he calls", "and he called", or "and he shall call" (not "and he shall be called").

    It is tragic that Glorydaz and Evil.Eye count such things as the stuff of cockroaches, (#209).
    Neither of them are true trinitarians.

    They think Jesus is only the Father in a resurrected body, which is a denial of Gods son Jesus.

    1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Neither of them are true trinitarians.

    They think Jesus is only the Father in a resurrected body, which is a denial of Gods son Jesus.

    1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.


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    Yep, they both say, "Jesus is YHWH", while they both know that the Torah, Prophets, and Writings, (all of Tanakh), teach that YHWH is our heavenly Father who is non-corporeal Spirit. Yet Evil says that if you do not believe that God Almighty YHWH became flesh, then died, and then resurrected Himself, you cannot be saved. And no doubt Jezebel agrees with Dr. Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
    Indoctrination is the way that seems right to man blinded by religion, all things are not possible to them only their creeds dictate what the Divine can do in their persona world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Rules are good, and make a child feel comfortable when leaving out of the nest. A total disregard is chaos and has no love or concern whatsoever. I've no idea how functional or dysfunctional your childhood was, but surely whichever way it was, it taught you that the one or other was true. A functional loving family has set rules and expectation. If you didn't have that, you know what you didn't have, and equally what you longed for. No argument exists against that. Christianity IS that healthy family with set rules and expectations that mean the Lord our God loves us. If you don't have it, you are not loved, frankly. Hebrews 12:4-Come be a part of a functional family, Zeke!
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    Indoctrination is different than the rules that teach truth Lon.

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    Plus tradition is the void that Christ warned about, taking on a name owned by the world and patronizing it is also a spiritual bondage of the mind which stops maturity in Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
    Plus tradition is the void that Christ warned about, taking on a name owned by the world and patronizing it is also a spiritual bondage of the mind which stops maturity in Christ.

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    Not mention the historic fraud of a carnal Christ and his blood thirsty father which is just a allegorical story gone literal and believed by the what lon? Indoctrinated sons of Hagar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
    Not mention the historic fraud of a carnal Christ and his blood thirsty father which is just a allegorical story gone literal and believed by the what lon? Indoctrinated sons of Hagar.

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    I believe it is creation that is Blood thirsty, but I disagree with you about Jesus.

    He is the Love of God bound to Us as a Groom is bound to a Bride. He was called the "Bride Groom" after all. Turn that painting a different direction and you will see it.

    It's all in 1 John 4:8; 1 Cor. 13 and 1 Peter 4:8

    Isn't it odd that Peter and John's letters talk about Love in the 4:8's... just sayen....

    GOD IS LOVE. Don't let the dogma of those confused about the LOVE of the matter pull you away from the TRUTH that God walked among us as ONE of us. If it wasn't for creation challenging God in the first place, we could have walked with God much sooner, but note that the "Devil" is removed from much doctrine.

    There is God (Love) and there is Evil (Hate) ... Evil is personified in scripture and people impute that Evil to God or mankind... but there is a deeper story in the matter.

    Don't give up that the King stepped from Eternity to put on mortality in display of His Love for us. The picture is much bigger and people that remove the John 5:39 from the matter are blind to the TRUTH.
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

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    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    I believe it is creation that is Blood thirsty, but I disagree with you about Jesus.

    He is the Love of God bound to Us as a Groom is bound to a Bride. He was called the "Bride Groom" after all. Turn that painting a different direction and you will see it.

    It's all in 1 John 4:8; 1 Cor. 13 and 1 Peter 4:8

    Isn't it odd that Peter and John's letters talk about Love in the 4:8's... just sayen....

    GOD IS LOVE. Don't let the dogma of those confused about the LOVE of the matter pull you away from the TRUTH that God walked among us as ONE of us. If it wasn't for creation challenging God in the first place, we could have walked with God much sooner, but note that the "Devil" is removed from much doctrine.

    There is God (Love) and there is Evil (Hate) ... Evil is personified in scripture and people impute that Evil to God or mankind... but there is a deeper story in the matter.

    Don't give up that the King stepped from Eternity to put on mortality in display of His Love for us. The picture is much bigger and people that remove the John 5:39 from the matter are blind to the TRUTH.
    Never said Divine love isn't part of the Christ within who became us, that seed that fell to earth/flesh/ and died/slept before the foundation of this temporal world was manifested, you think the shadows and types, patterns are substance of the eternal state when they are only tools in the teaching of divine seeds waking up to where they come from, no man/son of god ascends who didn't first descend from heaven to learn divine love in a world of good and evil. And no one man died for you literally because those events portrayed in allegorical stories you take as divine history happens in you not some middle eastern nation that has a shady and unviable history. The heart is the scroll God writes on not books of paper 2Cor 3:6.
    Trying to awaken the divine principle in the belly of the fish.

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