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    The goal of the regressive left is go to a single payer health system. Obamacare helps ensure this goal. The left wants all insurance companies to drop out, leaving only the government to provide healthcare. It's still progressing according to plan.
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    Never understood why they dint just go full-socialist and nationalize the healthcare insurance sector

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Never understood why they dint just go full-socialist and nationalize the healthcare insurance sector
    because the right wing would not allow that. There is too much $ to be made in health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    because the right wing would not allow that. There is too much $ to be made in health care.
    Yeah, the "right wing" is making a fortune off healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Never understood why they dint just go full-socialist and nationalize the healthcare insurance sector
    I'm reminded of a nurse from a very poor foreign country I once dealt with on a regular basis.

    One day, when I asked this individual why so many people from their country were so often so very rude and crude in their dealings with the ill, this person replied that theirs was a very poor country; that many went into the profession for the money.

    Over the years, I have continued to find that same pattern - entry into the medical profession by many, for the money over the love of caring for others (as taxing, and yet, as rewarding in itself, as that can be).

    Always makes me wonder if the profession were to pay far worse than it does, might it actually attract more to it because they actually care about others, rather than for the "Doctor" prestige, and all the rest.

    Single Payer can only fail under a medical system where wealth is the agenda of far too many of its Practitioners.

    In contrast (as an example, being that "religion" is often another victim of the pursuit of wealth), within Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, most of it's Pastor-Teachers work a nine to five or have a business on the side they rely on for the bills.

    Their Pastorship being for the love of the Word.

    I've seen this firsthand throughout this still great land of ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    I'm reminded of a nurse from a very poor foreign country I once dealt with on a regular basis.

    One day, when I asked this individual why so many people from their country were so often so very rude and crude in their dealings with the ill, this person replied that theirs was a very poor country; that many went into the profession for the money.

    Over the years, I have continued to find that same pattern - entry into the medical profession by many, for the money over the love of caring for others (as taxing, and yet, as rewarding in itself, as that can be).

    Always makes me wonder if the profession were to pay far worse than it does, might it actually attract more to it because they actually care about others, rather than for the "Doctor" prestige, and all the rest.

    Single Payer can only fail under a medical system where wealth is the agenda of far too many of its Practitioners.

    In contrast (as an example, being that "religion" is often another victim of the pursuit of wealth), within Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, most of it's Pastor-Teachers work a nine to five or have a business on the side they rely on for the bills.

    Their Pastorship being for the love of the Word.

    I've seen this firsthand throughout this still great land of ours.

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    Maybe Trump really didn't care if the GOP healthcare plans went through or not. He didn't "sell" it as he could have and he has said dozens of times "let Obamacare collapse"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    I'm reminded of a nurse from a very poor foreign country I once dealt with on a regular basis.

    One day, when I asked this individual why so many people from their country were so often so very rude and crude in their dealings with the ill, this person replied that theirs was a very poor country; that many went into the profession for the money.

    Over the years, I have continued to find that same pattern - entry into the medical profession by many, for the money over the love of caring for others (as taxing, and yet, as rewarding in itself, as that can be).

    Always makes me wonder if the profession were to pay far worse than it does, might it actually attract more to it because they actually care about others, rather than for the "Doctor" prestige, and all the rest.

    Single Payer can only fail under a medical system where wealth is the agenda of far too many of its Practitioners.

    In contrast (as an example, being that "religion" is often another victim of the pursuit of wealth), within Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, most of it's Pastor-Teachers work a nine to five or have a business on the side they rely on for the bills.

    Their Pastorship being for the love of the Word.

    I've seen this firsthand throughout this still great land of ours.

    Rom. 5:8
    Had this same conversation with a female doc recently. I noted the increase in women doctors and she thought one of the reasons was that it was not as lucrative, comparatively, as it used to be. Young men, if they were looking for the $, went into other fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Maybe Trump really didn't care if the GOP healthcare plans went through or not. He didn't "sell" it as he could have and he has said dozens of times "let Obamacare collapse"
    Trump promised high-quality care for everyone, with lower premiums. Did anyone really believe him? If so, they deserved to be taken.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Trump promised high-quality care for everyone, with lower premiums. Did anyone really believe him? If so, they deserved to be taken.
    What did Bammy promise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    What did Bammy promise?
    Bammy isn't POTUS any more! Get over it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    Bammy isn't POTUS any more! Get over it.


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    Neither is Hillary

    Get a life, instead of waiting for opportunities to take jabs at Trump, like a low-life leftist loser
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Neither is Hillary

    Get a life, instead of waiting for opportunities to take jabs at Trump, like a low-life leftist loser
    See there? Now you're resorting to blatant lies. I didn't say a thing about Trump other than to illustrate YOUR inability to articulate a defense for the indefensible.

    Poor mislead Wing-Nut lemming that you are!
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    Elect a clown and you get a circus!
    if Trump had half a wit he would be a half wit if Trump had half a wit he would be a half wit if Trump had half a wit he would be a half wit if Trump had half a wit he would be a half wit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    See there? Now you're resorting to blatant lies. I didn't say a thing about Trump other than to illustrate YOUR inability to articulate a defense for the indefensible.

    Poor mislead Wing-Nut lemming that you are!
    You're blinded by your deep hatred of Trump - your meme clearly mentioned Trump, doofus
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    New rules pj

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