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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!
    easy


    we'll make the mexicans pay for it!

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    Well, it looks like Trumpcare is no good so far -
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    Trumpcare

    For one party to take control of the White House, House, Senate and Supreme Court in America doesn't ocur very often and usually for only a 2 year term!

    Faced with Trump and his Cabinet's lack of political experience and his erratic behaviour, some Republicans in the Congress must be "tearing their hair out" for having frittered away 40 days of valuable time before starting to tackle the big ticket items on their legislative agenda!

    Repealing and replacing "Obamacare" seems like a strange place to start - given that it is probably the most complex of all legislation to enact, while generating the least amount of general consensus within the Party on how to proceed.

    One would have thought that introducing the infrastructure/jobs package would have had more of an immediate impact and generated far more approval from their base.

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    Yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Well, it looks like Trumpcare is no good so far -
    Do tell - how, specifically; PJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Trumpcare

    For one party to take control of the White House, House, Senate and Supreme Court in America doesn't ocur very often and usually for only a 2 year term!

    Faced with Trump and his Cabinet's lack of political experience and his erratic behaviour, some Republicans in the Congress must be "tearing their hair out" for having frittered away 40 days of valuable time before starting to tackle the big ticket items on their legislative agenda!

    Repealing and replacing "Obamacare" seems like a strange place to start - given that it is probably the most complex of all legislation to enact, while generating the least amount of general consensus within the Party on how to proceed.

    One would have thought that introducing the infrastructure/jobs package would have had more of an immediate impact and generated far more approval from their base.
    Republicans could just let Obamacare fall into a death spiral and let millions of Americans suffer or they could do what they are doing now which is repealing and replacing before a death spiral takes place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Do tell - how, specifically; PJ?
    the partial replacement bill is pretty good but there are a lot rebulicans that want to end the Obamacare subsides using a cold turkey approach and others that want to grandfather in these subsides. another point of contention is the use of means tested refundable tax credit to entice both poor and healthy into buying insurance vs tax deductions with more use of high risk pools at the state level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffblue101 View Post
    Republicans could just let Obamacare fall into a death spiral and let millions of Americans suffer or they could do what they are doing now which is repealing and replacing before a death spiral takes place
    That's the conservative narrative but the reality is the Republicans don't have enough votes to replace Obamacare with this or any other plan.

    Moderate Republicans won't support the future cuts in Medicaid for their state and the right-wing of the party, who oppose all state involvement in healthcare on philosophical grounds, refuse to vote for "Obamacare Light!"

    If the Republicans show that they can only repeal, but not replace Obamacare, despite having control of the White House, Senate and House, why should they expect American voters to provide support for more of the same in the 2018 Midterms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    That's the conservative narrative but the reality is the Republicans don't have enough votes to replace Obamacare with this or any other plan.
    Hog wash.


    Moderate Republicans won't support the future cuts in Medicaid for their state and the right-wing of the party, who oppose all state involvement in healthcare on philosophical grounds, refuse to vote for "Obamacare Light!"
    Once the Illegal immigrants are deported there will be plenty of Medicaid for poor legitimate Americans.

    Since it's inception no Republican controlled government has completely done away with Medicaid.

    Knock off the Leftist lying scare tactics.


    If the Republicans show that they can only repeal, but not replace Obamacare, despite having control of the White House, Senate and House, why should they expect American voters to provide support for more of the same in the 2018 Midterms?
    IF?

    Simply wishful fantasy on your part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Hog wash.




    Once the Illegal immigrants are deported there will be plenty of Medicaid for poor legitimate Americans.

    Since it's inception no Republican controlled government has completely done away with Medicaid.

    Knock off the Leftist lying scare tactics.




    IF?

    Simply wishful fantasy on your part.
    But for the Native American and their various modern day cousins; everyone else is an illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    But for the Native American and their various modern day cousins; everyone else is an illegal.
    Right on, cuzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
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    If the Republicans show that they can only repeal, but not replace Obamacare, despite having control of the White House, Senate and House, why should they expect American voters to provide support for more of the same in the 2018 Midterms?
    Since the demoncrats have offered nothing good and they have done nothing in Congress, why would anyone vote demoncrat in 18 or 20. The left simply cries and whines and lies, not conducive to getting elected. They will spend 4 years blocking and obstructing Trump and have nothing to run on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    But for the Native American and their various modern day cousins; everyone else is an illegal.
    i'm a native american

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    i'm a native american
    Nah; house Indians are automatically excluded - you would know that were you not a house Indian

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Right on, cuzz.

    Pass the calumet, you hog

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