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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffblue101 View Post
    your position is unlikely to ever occur not only that no repbulican bill that I read about did not involve eliminating all government involvement.Even Cruz's bill included heavily state subsidised high risk pools to take care of the sick.9
    I think it's criminal.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    It should be criminal to make anyone buy from a private for profit company by law
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    believe it!

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    Medicaid was greatly expanded under Obummer, to include millions of able bodied working age losers getting free healthcare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I oppose any bill that gives government control of healthcare.
    I dang sure don't think anyone should be forced to pay for another's medical expenses.
    Those who fought and died on the beaches of Normandy, Okinawa and Iwo Jima were young people drafted by the government and forced to put their lives in harms way!

    If rich and wealthy Americans are willing to allow others, particularly those poorer than themselves, to fight and die for them, paying their fair share to provide universal healthcare is the least they can do!

    Otherwise, put the sons and daughters of the wealthy in the front lines - why shouldn't those who have benefited the most in American society be exposed to the greatest amount of risk during times of war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Those who fought and died on the beaches of Normandy, Okinawa and Iwo Jima were young people drafted by the government and forced to put their lives in harms way!

    If rich and wealthy Americans are willing to allow others, particularly those poorer than themselves, to fight and die for them, paying their fair share to provide universal healthcare is the least they can do!

    Otherwise, put the sons and daughters of the wealthy in the front lines - why shouldn't those who have benefited the most in American society be exposed to the greatest amount of risk during times of war?
    Wow, you really are a hardcore radical leftist !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Medicaid was greatly expanded under Obummer, to include millions of able bodied working age losers getting free healthcare
    In the American justice system, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty - just because there are some taking advantage of Medicaid doesn't justify punishing the innocent for the sins of the guilty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    In the American justice system, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty - just because there are some taking advantage of Medicaid doesn't justify punishing the innocent for the sins of the guilty!
    No innocent will be "punished" - Nobody will lose their Medicaid, just a slowing of expansion starting in 7 years !
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Wow, you really are a hardcore radical leftist !!
    What's wrong with the military providing the sons and daughters of billionaires, like Donald Trump, with the most dangerous assignments during time of war?

    Those who have the most to gain in American society, should expect to be exposed to the greatest risk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    What's wrong with the military providing the sons and daughters of billionaires, like Donald Trump, with the most dangerous assignments during time of war?

    Those who have the most to gain in American society, should also be exposed to the greatest risk!
    Rich and famous Americans have proudly served all throughout our history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Rich and famous Americans have proudly served all throughout our history.
    If you don't treat rich and poor as equals during times of peace, why should it be any different during times of war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    You care by voluntarily offering help.
    It would be cheaper for you in the long run because you don't have to pay for all the middlemen of government employment.
    Every dime goes directly to the doctors and nurses of the hospital that treated you.
    But big corporate insurance middlemen are OK?

    And have you thought this through? Exactly how does it work? do you write a check to each doctor or nurse? How does medical equipment get paid for?
    What if your bill is several hundred thousand dollars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by High Cherub IX View Post
    *hate them

    We live in a world against white people, and particularly white men.

    Poor baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Those who fought and died on the beaches of Normandy, Okinawa and Iwo Jima were young people drafted by the government and forced to put their lives in harms way!

    If rich and wealthy Americans are willing to allow others, particularly those poorer than themselves, to fight and die for them, paying their fair share to provide universal healthcare is the least they can do!

    Otherwise, put the sons and daughters of the wealthy in the front lines - why shouldn't those who have benefited the most in American society be exposed to the greatest amount of risk during times of war?
    Then you propose forcibly stealing from some to pay for others.
    That's not Christian at all.
    You completely eliminate charity, as FORCED charity is not charity at all.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    If you don't treat rich and poor as equals during times of peace, why should it be any different during times of war?
    Who is not being treated equally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    But big corporate insurance middlemen are OK?
    If those are the folks you wish to deal with.
    At least you would have a choice in the matter and are not forced into it.

    And have you thought this through? Exactly how does it work? do you write a check to each doctor or nurse? How does medical equipment get paid for?
    What if your bill is several hundred thousand dollars?
    Like everything else in life, if you can't afford to pay the price they demand, then you don't get it.

    You can't walk into a business that sells a product or a service and tell them you need something they have, but cannot afford it, so they must steal the money from someone else to cover your expense.

    Stealing is not charity.

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