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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    Really? How old are you? Gonna be on Medicare or should we get rid of that as well? Just askin'.
    Never ask a lady how old she is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I don't want ANY government funded health care.
    As a worker in the field of health care, i don't care who funds me


    As long as those paychecks keep on coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    Really?
    Yes.

    How old are you? Gonna be on Medicare or should we get rid of that as well? Just askin'.
    Mid 60's.
    No.
    Get rid of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Never ask a lady how old she is!
    Now you were raised right!
    Thank your mother for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    You oppose the Bill?
    I oppose any bill that gives government control of healthcare.
    I dang sure don't think anyone should be forced to pay for another's medical expenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I oppose any bill that gives government control of healthcare.
    I dang sure don't think anyone should be forced to pay for another's medical expenses.
    "Dang sure". So, someone shows up at an ER, no insurance, homeless. Who pays or do they get turned away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    "Dang sure". So, someone shows up at an ER, no insurance, homeless. Who pays or do they get turned away?
    That would be up to the hospital, not the government.
    If the hospital wants to eat the expense, they can.
    But no one should be forced to pay that bill for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    That would be up to the hospital, not the government.
    If the hospital wants to eat the expense, they can.
    But no one should be forced to pay that bill for them.
    So a hospital, full of doctors and nurses whose job is to treat sick people is going to turn someone away. Only in republican dreams.
    And if they do treat someone like that, they will need to make up the difference somewhere, most likely in the next contract with your insurer, so you pay no matter what.
    Very Christian attitude on your behalf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    "Dang sure". So, someone shows up at an ER, no insurance, homeless. Who pays or do they get turned away?
    Of course they are turned away. That is the GOP's actual intent ... they don't want anyone who is poor, disabled or NOT of their political persuasion to receive treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    So a hospital, full of doctors and nurses whose job is to treat sick people is going to turn someone away.
    A friend of mine works as a home health care nurse

    Should she work for free?


    My neighbor is the CEO of the local hospital - should he ask his staff to work for free?



    All of my co-workers worked at the local hospital

    Should they have been asked to work for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    A friend of mine works as a home health care nurse

    Should she work for free?


    My neighbor is the CEO of the local hospital - should he ask his staff to work for free?



    All of my co-workers worked at the local hospital

    Should they have been asked to work for free?
    That is not the issue. No, they should not work for free, no one is asking them to do so. My daughter is an MD at a big city hospital. She does not work for free but at the same time she treats many people who are on the low end of the economic scale who surely cannot afford to pay her directly. The issue is who is responsible for the least of us? Best I can recall, Jesus would say we all are. So how do you make that work? Or do you simply not care and simply leave those who cannot afford it to be in pain, to die early etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    So a hospital, full of doctors and nurses whose job is to treat sick people is going to turn someone away.
    It's up to them.
    No government should force them to work for free.
    They can work for free if they want to, but no one should force them.


    Only in republican dreams.
    Doesn't matter which political party.

    And if they do treat someone like that, they will need to make up the difference somewhere,
    Bingo.
    It's still their decision if they want to eat the expense themselves.
    And there is nothing stopping you from paying their bill.
    But you should never be forced to.


    most likely in the next contract with your insurer,
    That would be fraud of overcharging.
    An unfair balance.
    Stealing.

    so you pay no matter what.
    Stop those kinds of fraud.
    It's not right to rob from Peter to pay Paul.


    Very Christian attitude on your behalf.
    Thank you.
    Thou shalt not steal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    That is not the issue. No, they should not work for free, no one is asking them to do so. My daughter is an MD at a big city hospital. She does not work for free but at the same time she treats many people who are on the low end of the economic scale who surely cannot afford to pay her directly. The issue is who is responsible for the least of us? Best I can recall, Jesus would say we all are. So how do you make that work? Or do you simply not care and simply leave those who cannot afford it to be in pain, to die early etc.
    You care by voluntarily offering help.
    It would be cheaper for you in the long run because you don't have to pay for all the middlemen of government employment.
    Every dime goes directly to the doctors and nurses of the hospital that treated you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I oppose any bill that gives government control of healthcare.
    I dang sure don't think anyone should be forced to pay for another's medical expenses.
    your position is unlikely to ever occur not only that no repbulican bill that I read about did not involve eliminating all government involvement.Even Cruz's bill included heavily state subsidised high risk pools to take care of the sick.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Of course they are turned away. That is the GOP's actual intent ... they don't want anyone who is poor, disabled or NOT of their political persuasion to receive treatment.
    Yep. That darn GOP
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