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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    We got to witness the Art of the Deal in action yesterday. It might be more accurately call the Art of Blame Everyone Else and Run Away.
    Time for his art of the schmiel

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Because they suck at winning elections, as I just said.

    At this point in Obama's first term, they'd passed Obamacare and a massive stimulus package. Both were incredibly controversial, both were a major legislative push. And it's because they had the discipline for the actual legislative process. What Paul Ryan tried to do this week, and what Trump tried to do, isn't legislating. I'm not sure what it was. It was pathetic. They hid it in the basement, they jammed it through committees, they limited debate. They tried to call a vote that was full of aggrieved symbolism, they completely ignored the other side, they barely compromised with their own members, and the result was a bill that was objectively horrible and hurt most of the country. That bill was so bad that Congress is nearly twice as popular. And all for a bill that was destined to die in the Senate.

    The Repeal and Replace rhetoric were with dishonest, insincere, or perhaps just unvetted. The math is horrendous.
    That actually reads like a description of Trump's other fraud - his life as a so called big time real estate developer

    The reality?

    Not only did he never complete his education at Wharton, but many of his classmates long since left him in the dust of their $Billions.

    Trump fools have bought into his quest to make himself famous.

    His classmates followed in the tradition of their families' practice.

    The practice of quietly continuing building the kind of massively massive wealth that allows such to buy a Trump on a whim, should they so choose, but ten times over, and then some, without even beginning to tap their massive fortunes.

    Well, he just ran into some just like that - in the person of the ever behind the scenes Koch Brothers.

    The man is...a fraud who is laughed at by such families.

    Of course, the Trump drones are already rationalizing that Trump is the one who ended up with the last laugh.

    Sit back, kid, we're only seeing the beginning of this comedy of errors that is their self-induced Trump admini-frustration

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    danoh - you're almost as disturbed as anna


    better find yerself a puppy to hug for the next four years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    A product of the devil. Civil court should not exist. But it does because we have an extremely corrupt system.
    As of 2016, Trump and his businesses had been involved in more than 3,500 state and federal legal actions.

    Trump or one of his companies was the plaintiff in 1,900 cases and the defendant in 1,450.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Under the current system, it's not even up to the relatives. It's up to the police. But, I'm gathering that some people don't want even that kind of interference with their "freedom".
    You bet
    So, what?

    believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    danoh - you're almost as disturbed as anna


    better find yerself a puppy to hug for the next four years
    One, thanks for the high compliment

    Two, neither Obama's policies back then, nor Trump's now, can negatively impact me personally

    Is there ever a time one cannot capitalize on the policies of one administration, or another?

    Nope.

    Only a bad strategy.

    That right there is all the "puppy to hug" the more astute...ever need.

    You must be a worker ant.

    Such ever look at things from the half empty they delude themselves into concluding they are seeing is half full

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    You bet
    Yep.

    A good friend of mine not only legally conceals and carries at his place of business, but carries himself like the ever casual, til pushed too far, kind of person he is.

    In a neighborhood where some believe in doing as they please, when they please.

    To a man, very few disrespect him as a person not to be messed with.

    Very few, very...rarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Let the government provide universal catastrophic care and allow the free market take care of all other health issues.

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    Define catastrophic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Define catastrophic.
    Catastrophic Health Plan

    Health plans that meet all of the requirements applicable to other Qualified Health Plans (QHPs) but that don't cover any benefits other than 3 primary care visits per year before the plan's deductible is met. The premium amount you pay each month for health care is generally lower than for other QHPs, but the out-of-pocket costs for deductibles, copayments, and coinsurance are generally higher. To qualify for a Catastrophic plan, you must be under 30 years old OR get a "hardship exemption" because the Marketplace determined that you’re unable to afford health coverage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Define catastrophic.
    The kind that is already provided at tax payer expense in the emergency rooms all across America.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Catastrophic Health Plan

    Health plans that meet all of the requirements applicable to other Qualified Health Plans (QHPs) but that don't cover any benefits other than 3 primary care visits per year before the plan's deductible is met. The premium amount you pay each month for health care is generally lower than for other QHPs, but the out-of-pocket costs for deductibles, copayments, and coinsurance are generally higher. To qualify for a Catastrophic plan, you must be under 30 years old OR get a "hardship exemption" because the Marketplace determined that you’re unable to afford health coverage.



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    I did some searching and see that comes from the ACA. Here is more info:

    https://www.healthcare.gov/choose-a-.../#catastrophic
    What Catastrophic plans cover

    Catastrophic plans cover the same essential health benefits as other Marketplace plans.
    Like other plans, Catastrophic plans cover certain preventive services at no cost.
    They also cover at least 3 primary care visits per year before you’ve met your deductible.



    Are you saying you want the gov't to cover these items for everybody and then people can purchase other insurance on top of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    I did some searching and see that comes from the ACA. Here is more info:

    https://www.healthcare.gov/choose-a-.../#catastrophic
    What Catastrophic plans cover

    Catastrophic plans cover the same essential health benefits as other Marketplace plans.
    Like other plans, Catastrophic plans cover certain preventive services at no cost.
    They also cover at least 3 primary care visits per year before you’ve met your deductible.



    Are you saying you want the gov't to cover these items for everybody and then people can purchase other insurance on top of it?
    Yes. As a compromise. It's the best Trump can do.

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    Trumpcare is back !!! The Freedom Caucus is on board and it looks like a go !!!
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:12-13, 14 -



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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Trumpcare is back !!! The Freedom Caucus is on board and it looks like a go !!!
    I DO hope it goes through.
    Racism does not have a good track record. It's been tried out for a long time and you'd think by now
    we'd want to put an end to it instead of putting it under new management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Trumpcare is coming, with a roll out next week. There will likely be lots of protests and disagreement. Let's discuss Trumpcare here -
    The Trump White House is already drafting a response placing all the blame on the Democrats again if this second attempt at repeal and replace fails - ignoring the Republican majority!

    Any healthcare bill that has the support of the Freedom Caucus runs the risk of losing the moderate Republicans on the other end of the political spectrum.

    Republicans want to strip Obamacare and its replacement of the monetary supports for the elderly and pre-existing conditions - they want that "blood money" to balance the books on their tax reform and their infrastructure bills.

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