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    Trumpcare

    Trumpcare is coming, with a roll out next week. There will likely be lots of protests and disagreement. Let's discuss Trumpcare here -
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    Have you got an extra copy of what it will entail, pj?

    Inquiring minds need to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles Wings View Post
    Have you got an extra copy of what it will entail, pj?

    Inquiring minds need to know.
    It will be introduced to America and afterwards Congress will be able to make changes as necessary. Very simply, it won't be passed without intense scrutiny, so we will all know what it entails very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    It will be introduced to America and afterwards Congress will be able to make changes as necessary. Very simply, it won't be passed without intense scrutiny, so we will all know what it entails very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Trumpcare is coming, with a roll out next week. There will likely be lots of protests and disagreement. Let's discuss Trumpcare here -
    The financing doesn't add up - how can you introduce a cheaper plan that includes those with pre-existing conditions without requiring a compulsory component?

    If they go the private insurance route, you will have the same insurance companies that participated in Obamacare, if they go the universal healthcare route, the right-wing of the Republican Party will refuse to support it.

    John Boehner was right, after the Republicans finish reshuffling the deckchairs, Trumpcare will be nothing more than Obamacare under a different name!

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    we should build a wall around healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    we should build a wall around healthcare
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!
    Watch the magic of Trump !!! Better, cheaper health care for tens of millions of Americans
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Watch the magic of Trump !!! Better, cheaper health care for tens of millions of Americans
    The reality is that "magic" or "no magic," many conservative Republicans may vote for the repeal of Obamacare but not to replace.

    Despite having Republican majorities in both Houses, the Trumpcare replacement may not pass through Congress without Democratic support!
    Last edited by jgarden; May 5th, 2017 at 05:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!
    easy


    we'll make the mexicans pay for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!
    You are a pre-existing condition. And trump ain't taking you


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    "I'm going to take care of everybody."


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8mcN0zweQE

    Sounds rather socialist to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    "I'm going to take care of everybody."


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8mcN0zweQE

    Sounds rather socialist to me.
    It is. The only way you can take care of everyone with better care than now, with lower premiums, is to socialize the entire medical system.

    And Trump's piddling around with it, will get us there faster than Obamacare would have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    It is. The only way you can take care of everyone with better care than now, with lower premiums, is to socialize the entire medical system.

    And Trump's piddling around with it, will get us there faster than Obamacare would have.
    Now that we've both agreed that Donald Trump is a socialist...

    the free enterprise system of economics is one of the many things that made America great, when used in the medical system (again) it will be beneficial to all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Now that we've both agreed that Donald Trump is a socialist...
    I doubt very much that Trump has an ideology other than "what's in it for me?" He's an opportunist. But yes, his earlier idea of a one-time 15% tax on the worth of wealthy people to remove the debt is about as socialistic idea as there could be.

    the free enterprise system of economics is one of the many things that made America great, when used in the medical system (again) it will be beneficial to all.
    What's wrong with American health care has its roots in price and wage controls in WWII, so you're not far off. The question is how to do a reset now. There will always be a need for care for catastrophic health care and I don't see any country with a market solution for that, that works. If there is one, it would be the way to go.
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