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    Trumpcare

    Trumpcare is coming, with a roll out next week. There will likely be lots of protests and disagreement. Let's discuss Trumpcare here -
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    Have you got an extra copy of what it will entail, pj?

    Inquiring minds need to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles Wings View Post
    Have you got an extra copy of what it will entail, pj?

    Inquiring minds need to know.
    It will be introduced to America and afterwards Congress will be able to make changes as necessary. Very simply, it won't be passed without intense scrutiny, so we will all know what it entails very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    It will be introduced to America and afterwards Congress will be able to make changes as necessary. Very simply, it won't be passed without intense scrutiny, so we will all know what it entails very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Trumpcare is coming, with a roll out next week. There will likely be lots of protests and disagreement. Let's discuss Trumpcare here -
    The financing doesn't add up - how can you introduce a cheaper plan that includes those with pre-existing conditions without requiring a compulsory component?

    If they go the private insurance route, you will have the same insurance companies that participated in Obamacare, if they go the universal healthcare route, the right-wing of the Republican Party will refuse to support it.

    John Boehner was right, after the Republicans finish reshuffling the deckchairs, Trumpcare will be nothing more than Obamacare under a different name!

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    we should build a wall around healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    we should build a wall around healthcare
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Obviously "ok doser" has nothing intelligent to contribute to the question as to how the Republicans can reinvent healthcare that is better and cheaper while still accommodating pre-existing conditions!
    Watch the magic of Trump !!! Better, cheaper health care for tens of millions of Americans
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Watch the magic of Trump !!! Better, cheaper health care for tens of millions of Americans
    The reality is that "magic" or "no magic," many conservative Republicans may vote for the repeal of Obamacare but not to replace.

    Despite having Republican majorities in both Houses, the Trumpcare replacement may not pass the through Congress without Democratic support!

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    "I'm going to take care of everybody."


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    Sounds rather socialist to me.

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    Trump isn't a traditional conservative. In fact, he has liberal notions behind his conservative attitude.

    Works just fine for me- this country is bitterly against itself, and I voted for Trump because I believe he will mend that wound- anybody else would have simply gaped it wide open, and that is not the influence a Christian is supposed to have.

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    One thing I heard about the GOP plan is that they are changing subsidies from being based on income to age. What's the basis for that change? I read one Republican respond with some criticism on that too, asking why a millionaire should be eligible for subsidies based on age.

    A while back someone made a comment that Republicans have policies that hurt the poor and I pushed back some but stuff like this sure makes it seem like they do intentionally hurt the poor and help the rich.

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    seeing as there's a heckuva lot more poor people than wealthy people, doesn't it make sense to have them help each other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    seeing as there's a heckuva lot more poor people than wealthy people, doesn't it make sense to have them help each other?
    The wealthy don't care about the poor- they live in their bubble and prescribe their selves a fake reality of how things actually are

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    I expect the Republicans only want to repeal ACA. The replacement is what was before. The poor, even middle class, cannot afford health care so they don't go to a doctor regularly. Then since they are not getting preventive care they wind up in Emergency rooms where the expense is much greater and stick the hospital with the bill who write it off their taxes. Then the taxpayers are the ones who support this worse case scenario and employers who now have employees too sick to work.

    The hard part for the Republicans is to make the American public think they really did something better. Cheaper is easy to show when you only repeal even though it is short sighted. I expect the widening gap between poor and rich and the shrinking middle class will only get worse under 45. It appears to be a repeat of the 1920s/1930s.
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