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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    How many countries that have single payer health insurance have EVER tried to repeal it?
    How many socialist countries have successfully "repealed" it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    How many socialist countries have successfully "repealed" it?
    Every one that has ever tried (or expressed a desire to), which is ZERO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I heard of a wonderful proposal from Trump. If healthcare bill is not passed the healthcare plans of Congress is reduced and cut.
    Congress is on Obamacare. They get an employer subsidy from the government, but they buy their plans on the same exchanges as everyone else.

    Trump made a comment that he was surprised there wasn't a bill on his desk ready to sign on day one. He got a lot of grief for it from a lot of people, but I kinda think he's right about that. The Republicans have been claiming to be ready to "repeal and replace" for eight years, And finally they get a chance to do it...and it turns out that was all just posturing and they had no plan.

    The only thing I can fault him for there is not realizing that was what was gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Government controlled healthcare would be a nightmare for this country. Please leave, you obviously don't like it here anymore since you have no voice and no influence, you're a boy without a country.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    Every one that has ever tried (or expressed a desire to), which is ZERO.
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    Rand Paul played a big role in the Executive Order from Trump



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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post






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    The hard right is delusional on the point. And most of the countries who spend far less of their GDP manage to cover everyone who needs healthcare. We leave millions without propping up a failing system.
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    An example of Universal healthcare. What other lifestyles and choices we make will get denied healthcare?

    The British National Health Service (NHS) has provoked a firestorm by temporarily banning surgeries on people who smoke and those who are obese. Patients who smoke must quit for at least eight weeks before non-urgent surgery, and obese people must lose weight before the NHS gives the go-ahead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    An example of Universal healthcare.
    Like suggesting there's only one sort of democracy, or one sort of Republican.

    The move is being opposed by the Royal College of Surgeons and doesn't bar urgent medical attention.

    What other lifestyles and choices we make will get denied healthcare?
    We aren't citizens of that empire and we can determine our own rules. Though to be fair, it doesn't look like the Brits are going to put up with it either.
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