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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    A monarchy is only as good as its king.
    A democracy is only as good as its citizens.

    It's a gamble either way.
    Guaranteed wickedness (democracy) vs potential goodness (monarchy)? Long live the King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Guaranteed wickedness (democracy) vs potential goodness (monarchy)? Long live the King.

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    The USA was always wicked?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Guaranteed wickedness (democracy) vs potential goodness (monarchy)? Long live the King.

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    Guaranteed howso?
    _/\_

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    Or are you saying any democracy will eventually become wicked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Or are you saying any democracy will eventually become wicked?
    Probably any such democracy that's not a fit for his particular views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Probably any such democracy that's not a fit for his particular views.
    Even still, which monarchy hasn't become wicked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Even still, which monarchy hasn't become wicked?
    Good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    The USA was always wicked?
    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Or are you saying any democracy will eventually become wicked?
    Any form of government where the majority rules will become wicked eventually, because the majority is wicked.
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    Guaranteed howso?
    See the Bible verse I quoted above about the majority being on their way to Hell, whereas the minority is Heavenbound.
    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Even still, which monarchy hasn't become wicked?
    Even the most wicked monarch never legalized murder. Here in America, we've legalized the worst kind of murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Any form of government where the majority rules will become wicked eventually, because the majority is wicked.

    See the Bible verse I quoted above about the majority being on their way to Hell, whereas the minority is Heavenbound.

    Even the most wicked monarch never legalized murder. Here in America, we've legalized the worst kind of murder.

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    Is there a Christian version of an Ayatollah ..that seems to be the direction you're eluding to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Any form of government where the majority rules will become wicked eventually, because the majority is wicked.

    See the Bible verse I quoted above about the majority being on their way to Hell, whereas the minority is Heavenbound.

    Even the most wicked monarch never legalized murder. Here in America, we've legalized the worst kind of murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    "Hell"? You think you won't end up in the 'grave' at some stage?
    Yes, Hell, and eventually the Lake of Fire. the 'grave' is a physical place. Humans are spiritual creatures seated in physical bodies. Our bodies will eventually die and wither away, but our soul-spirit will live on after 'death,' which is nought but separation from the physical universe.

    But that's a rabbit trail which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. So, if you could, please stay on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Yes, Hell, and eventually the Lake of Fire. the 'grave' is a physical place. Humans are spiritual creatures seated in physical bodies. Our bodies will eventually die and wither away, but our soul-spirit will live on after 'death,' which is nought but separation from the physical universe.

    But that's a rabbit trail which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. So, if you could, please stay on topic.

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    'Hell' translates as 'grave' but if you think the majority of humankind is bound for eternal torment of some sort then it would probably be a waste of time to continue anyway so I'll leave you to it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Even the most wicked monarch never legalized murder.
    Sure they have. As long as the victims are undesirables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Sure they have. As long as the victims are undesirables.
    You mean like JR's democratic majority?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    You mean like JR's democratic majority?
    I'm saying there's been plenty of murderous tyrants throughout history.
    To claim that no monarchy has ever allowed the murder of innocents is just plain false.

    I do agree that the best possible form of government would be a good king. But where can we get one of those? And who's to say the next monarch wouldn't be a jerk? That's the trouble with monarchies.
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