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    MILK (HEARER OF THE WORD)(DISCIPLE)(FAITH ONLY)

    1 Cor 3:1-2
    1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
    2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
    Matt 13:34-35
    34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
    35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
    Mark 4:34
    34 But without a parable He did not speak to them. And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.
    John 16:27
    25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.
    26 "In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you;
    27 "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God.
    1 Cor 3:1-3
    1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
    2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
    3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
    1 Tim 1:6-7
    6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
    7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
    Heb 5:12-13
    12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
    13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
    1 Pet 2:1-2
    1 Therefore, laying aside all malice, all guile, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking,
    2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,
    John 14:22-25
    22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?"
    23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
    24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
    25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
    26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
    John 16:7-11
    7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
    8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
    9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
    10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
    11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
    John 16:1-3
    1 "These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble.
    2 "They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service.
    3 "And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me.
    Jude 1:19
    19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
    (NKJ)Gal 4:1-5
    1 Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all,
    2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father.
    3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world.
    4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
    5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
    1 Cor 13:11-12
    11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
    Heb 5:13-6:3
    13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
    14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
    1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
    2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
    3 And this we will do if God permits.
    Phil 3:12-17
    12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me.
    13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead,
    14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
    15 Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.
    16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
    17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
    (NKJ) MILK THREE YEARS TO FIND THE HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES
    Luke 13:7-9
    7 "Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, 'Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?'
    8 "But he answered and said to him, 'Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it.
    9 'And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.' "
    Gal 1:15-19
    15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
    16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
    17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
    18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
    19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
    Luke 24:49
    49 "Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high."

    (NKJ)
    XXThere is a milk understanding of the Word and there is a meat understanding of the Word of God. And the devil is always there trying to stir up trouble. Trying to say that one or the other has to be wrong. This just isnt so. Those in the milk can only handle so much. And through sharing the Word some in the milk might pick up on the meat understanding of one verse and the milk understanding of the others verses. But the devil is always there trying to say someone is wrong, this just isnt so. We as in the brotherhood should be witnessing this to beginners(young christians). Alot of those in the milk resist following the Holy Spirit into the meat. Because they havent got enough faith to crucify their flesh(emotions and feelings). So they abide in the milk their whole lives.

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    Luke 6:46
    46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?
    (NKJ)

    Matt 7:21-23
    21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
    23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
    (NKJ)

    Matt 16:25
    25 "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
    (NKJ)

    Always remember you were in the milk when you started in scripture. You were in the milk when you tried to explain scripture. And you explained it carnally with human wisdom and interpretations. So the meat must be something much deeper than interpretation with the carnal language. It has to be done with the scriptures, defining scripture with scripture. In the milk everyone is faith only christians. But when one goes into the meat they must have works. Works are what proves their faith.


    Heb 4:1-2
    1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.
    2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it.
    (NKJ)

    Acts 20:31-32
    31 "Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
    32 "So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
    (NKJ)

    Gal 4:29
    29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now.
    (NKJ)

    In the milk understanding is where people come up with theologies. Theology is spiritual theory, and theory is guessing. Those in the milk havent learned about the rules of believing yet. Not to think beyond what is written, and not to add one thing to the Word or take one thing away from the Word. They believe in things like the trinity doctrine.


    1 Cor 4:6
    6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
    (NKJ)

    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    (NKJ)

    Luke 9:55
    55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of.
    (NKJ)

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    The milk understanding is the understanding that you get carnally. Spiritual is the verses quoted, carnal is the theology. Theology is spiritual theory, and theory is guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    The milk understanding is the understanding that you get carnally. Spiritual is the verses quoted, carnal is the theology. Theology is spiritual theory, and theory is guessing.
    Interesting Premise



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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Interesting Premise


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    In the milk is when one begins to see new things in the bible that they didn't know. And they start throwing them at everyone else. They believe they are helping. And when they do it, it always back fires on them. And they don't know why. Its because their doing it carnally. Without the Holy Spirit.

    James 4:10
    10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.
    (NKJ)

    James 1:19
    19 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;
    (NKJ)

    Heb 4:12-13
    12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
    13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
    (NKJ)

    Rom 14:10-11
    10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
    11 For it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God."
    (NKJ)

    Phil 2:12
    12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
    (NKJ)

    One can only teach after they have learned it themselves. Its one thing to have the knowledge its another thing to know how to apply it.

    Rom 2:21-27
    21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
    22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
    23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
    24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
    25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
    26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
    27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
    (NKJ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    MILK (HEARER OF THE WORD)(DISCIPLE)(FAITH ONLY)

    1 Cor 3:1-2
    1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
    2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
    Matt 13:34-35
    34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
    35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
    Mark 4:34
    34 But without a parable He did not speak to them. And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.
    John 16:27
    25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.
    26 "In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you;
    27 "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God.
    1 Cor 3:1-3
    1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
    2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
    3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
    1 Tim 1:6-7
    6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
    7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
    Heb 5:12-13
    12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
    13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
    1 Pet 2:1-2
    1 Therefore, laying aside all malice, all guile, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking,
    2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,
    John 14:22-25
    22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?"
    23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
    24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
    25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
    26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
    John 16:7-11
    7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
    8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
    9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
    10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
    11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
    John 16:1-3
    1 "These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble.
    2 "They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service.
    3 "And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me.
    Jude 1:19
    19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
    (NKJ)Gal 4:1-5
    1 Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all,
    2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father.
    3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world.
    4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
    5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
    1 Cor 13:11-12
    11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
    Heb 5:13-6:3
    13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
    14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
    1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
    2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
    3 And this we will do if God permits.
    Phil 3:12-17
    12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me.
    13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead,
    14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
    15 Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.
    16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
    17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
    (NKJ) MILK THREE YEARS TO FIND THE HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES
    Luke 13:7-9
    7 "Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, 'Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?'
    8 "But he answered and said to him, 'Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it.
    9 'And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.' "
    Gal 1:15-19
    15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
    16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
    17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
    18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
    19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
    Luke 24:49
    49 "Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high."

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    XXThere is a milk understanding of the Word and there is a meat understanding of the Word of God. And the devil is always there trying to stir up trouble. Trying to say that one or the other has to be wrong. This just isnt so. Those in the milk can only handle so much. And through sharing the Word some in the milk might pick up on the meat understanding of one verse and the milk understanding of the others verses. But the devil is always there trying to say someone is wrong, this just isnt so. We as in the brotherhood should be witnessing this to beginners(young christians). Alot of those in the milk resist following the Holy Spirit into the meat. Because they havent got enough faith to crucify their flesh(emotions and feelings). So they abide in the milk their whole lives.
    So me the term milk understanding in scripture.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    So me the term milk understanding in scripture.
    I said
    lol When did you resort to guile? Maybe that is your problem. When Paul tried to feed you with milk you went and got some vitamin D milk from a cow.

    2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewhomster View Post
    When we are saved; we are born again, and sealed with the holy spirit..we then go onward unto maturity, and when we are matured; we are sealed once again, with the seal of the meat. This seal means we can never fall.

    Babes who are born again, can fall...mature men cannot.

    So, we have a seal unto milk; initial salvation.
    Later, a seal unto meat, mature man.

    We are saved by the milk, matured by the meat..it is not complicated.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    lol When did you resort to guile? Maybe that is your problem. When Paul tried to feed you with milk you went and got some vitamin D milk from a cow.

    2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
    Hmmmm, It is the same tactic yo use. Show it to me in scripture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Hmmmm, It is the same tactic yo use. Show it to me in scripture.
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    lol If your having trouble with the milk and the meat. I'll bet baptism has you all messed up.


    Raven don't you know that you are condemning yourself by trying this kind of guile???? Because you believe in the trinity and that isn't no where in the bible.


    Rom 2:1

    Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.
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