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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    Any one can stand on the beach of any ocean....

    ... and see this:




    no, the ship on the right isn't sinking, it's further away

    and partially hidden by....


    the curvature of the earth!

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    Perspective.
    The earth can be perceived as flat or rounded.

    Even the bible confirms both perspectives.
    It speaks of the four corners of the earth (Eze 7:2, Rev 7:1), and it also speaks of GOD sitting above the circle of the earth (Is 40:22).

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    a circle is a two dimensional figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    not very flat in my back yard

    There is no curvature in the horizon of this pic. Flat earth does not mean there are no mountains, it means the earth is not a globe or ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    ... and see this:




    no, the ship on the right isn't sinking, it's further away

    and partially hidden by....


    the curvature of the earth!
    The picture shows a flat horizon with no curvature from left to right of a far greater distance than the that of the ship in the distance ahead of you. If you had a telescope you would be able to see the whole ship which is proof there is no curvature. If the earth were curved a distance we could see we would easily see it from left to right as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    a circle is a two dimensional figure
    Can be, like a plate (round but flat).
    Right?

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora
    *Even the bible confirms both perspectives.
    It speaks of the four corners of the earth (Eze 7:2,*Rev 7:1)
    Even modern literature uses the phrase. We don't think that someone actually believes the earth has corners. *it usually is pretty easy to tell someone is using poetic language to describe real events.*
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    The picture shows a flat horizon with no curvature from left to right...
    why would you expect to see curvature right to left?

    If you had a telescope you would be able to see the whole ship

    well, no - that shot was taken through a telescope

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Dave... Is the moon a flat disc?....the planets?
    How come I can head West to Australia... then continue West back to my starting point?
    modern+flat+earth+map.png

    You would travel in a circle on a flat plain just as you would if the earth were a globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    why would you expect to see curvature right to left?


    well, no - that shot was taken through a telescope
    The telescope obviously was not strong enough to reach the ship at that distance.

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    He's using the same kind of arguments that evolutionists use. He's ignoring or bending observable evidence in his favor.

    Darwinism is the 'flat earth' of the modern era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    The telescope obviously was not strong enough to reach the ship at that distance.

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    it was strong enough to reach the top half of the ship


    maybe the bottom half was farther away

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Even modern literature uses the phrase. We don't think that someone actually believes the earth has corners. *it usually is pretty easy to tell someone is using poetic language to describe real events.*
    Sure, but even the Is passage can be said to be poetic language.

    And even both, modern language and scripture, describes things differently depending on which perspective they are trying to convey.

    So when we ask the question: Does the bible describe the earth as rounded or cornered?, we can say "both" depending on the perspective of the point being made at the time, even though "rounded and cornered" are contradictory.

    Another case in point from scripture that shows a contradictory statement can bee seen in two different scriptures:
    The parables of Matt 13 tells us in one place that one sows all the seeds, and then tells us in another place that the devil sowed also.
    So when we ask the question: Does GOD sow all the seeds?, we can answer yes or no depending on which perspective the two different statements were being made for.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
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    Anybody else reminded of Flatland?

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
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    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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