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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Saying something doesn't make it true, Dave. Show how I'm wrong, please.
    Absolutely, a plane can fly at any angle or direction in the sky, so it can fly "level/straight" as the curve of the earth falls away beneath it and gravity can not prevent that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Dave,

    You have chosen not to see. and chosen not to understand.
    You don't see that even amateur astronomers see galaxies.
    You don't see the sun set
    You don't understand what gravity is.

    All choices. You are not stupid. You have chosen to be ignorant and blind, in order to protect your core beliefs.
    You don't see that this is debate, choosing to present the flat earth side of the argument does not mean I believe in flat earth.

    There are many intelligent and professional people who do believe in flat earth, it's a growing movement and this is there story.

    The way some of you argue one would think you were all sheep who blindly follow the party line and are ready to lock up and put into an insane asylum and condemn to hell anyone who does not conform to heliocentrism.

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    I'm still waiting on those comments on stars viewed through the Nikon P900.

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    "As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us".Psalm 103:12

    If you were to travel North then you would ultimately reach the North Pole. Same applies to travelling South.
    If you travel East or West you never reach the East or the West. This means that our sins have been removed to a destination that is without measurable distance. This verse describes an earth that conforms to a globe. If the earth were flat then this verse is void...perish the thought.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    You don't see that this is debate, choosing to present the flat earth side of the argument does not mean I believe in flat earth.

    There are many intelligent and professional people who do believe in flat earth, it's a growing movement and this is there story.

    The way some of you argue one would think you were all sheep who blindly follow the party line and are ready to lock up and put into an insane asylum and condemn to hell anyone who does not conform to heliocentrism.

    --Dave
    This is not a debate. You ignore every point brought in favor of a spherical earth, or claim that the facts are all lies (motivation for lying: unknown). You believe in a flat earth, and pretend that you don't.

    I've watched some of those flat videos. The narrator always sounds so calm and reasonable, as he spouts complete nonsense and lies. Oh so reasonable.

    We are not sheep, but people who really have looked at evidence- unlike yourself. Nobody is condemning you to anything. Except yourself- you have condemned yourself to ignorance, while pretending to yourself that you are smarter than everybody else. A great feeling- but based on a lie.

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    PS There seems to be an "A" missing from DFT.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    Absolutely, a plane can fly at any angle or direction in the sky,
    Can it fly sideways?

    so it can fly "level/straight" as the curve of the earth falls away beneath it and gravity can not prevent that.
    Dave, can a plane slowly bring it's nose up and go from flying horizontally to flying straight up vertically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    What do you want, Dave, pictures of people getting their picture taken next to a galaxy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    Nuclear missiles would not circle the earth.

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    You do understand what a "Ballistic Nuclear Missile" is... right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    You do understand what a "Ballistic Nuclear Missile" is... right?
    "Ballistic" means nothing to him because he rejects the concept of gravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    I'm still waiting on those comments on stars viewed through the Nikon P900.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    What do you want, Dave, pictures of people getting their picture taken next to a galaxy?
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    So Dave, tell us about the Foucault pendulum and the Coriolis effect (as evidenced by hurricanes) on a flat Earth. How do those work?
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Dave,

    Maybe we can take this discussion down a different course. Let's see what we can find as common ground. I know you're not much into astronomy and related sciences but since the shape of the planet is, at its core, an astronomical issue, I think it might be beneficial to ask you just what astronomical ideas you do accept as true.

    Do you, for example, accept that Jupiter is a planet and that is has at least four moons that orbit it?

    Do you accept that Saturn exists and that it has actual rings that surround it?

    Do Sun spots exist?


    I ask these specific things because they are all things that anyone can see for themselves with even the most modest equipment. Galileo saw the moons of Jupiter with a telescope that would be outclassed by modern telescopes that you can buy for less than 50 bucks. I've looked at Jupiter and it's moons multiple times this week with my 8-inch reflector that Galileo would have murdered be with a spoon to get one look at.

    So, I'm wondering if you acknowledge what normal everyday people (i.e. not NASA scientists or government agents) see for themselves.
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    Incidentally!

    Tomorrow night - that's Saturday night the 22nd of April - there will be a meteor shower. Since gravity isn't real and we aren't in orbit around the Sun, I have no idea how I know that but, nevertheless, it will be happening tomorrow night.

    The meteors WILL NOT fall only in a downward direction toward the ground as has been suggested by some lunatic on YouTube. Instead, the meteors will emanate in all directions from a point in the constelation Lyra, hence the shower's name, The Lyrid Meteor Shower.

    Lyrids_radiant_point.jpeg

    It is my intention to take photos. If I am successful, which there is no guarantee of, I will post them here as first-person, eyewitness testimony to the fact that the crazy oriental lady who produced that video was dumb as a sack of hammers.

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