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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.
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    Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation. Where did you ever come up with "state of being?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation.
    Why?

    Where did you ever come up with "state of being?
    "I am saved."

    "Am" is a [YELLOW]'being'[YELLOW] verb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Why?



    "I am saved."

    "Am" is a [YELLOW]'being'[YELLOW] verb.
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    If your alive your saved. To give you a chance to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Now you won't have the fear and trembling until you try to obey the new testament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation.
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    Why?
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    If your alive your saved. To give you a chance to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Now you won't have the fear and trembling until you try to obey the new testament.
    You didn't answer my question.

    Why, according to the definition provided above, does everyone have salvation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    You didn't answer my question.

    Why, according to the definition provided above, does everyone have salvation?
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    Your asking the wrong person. I didnt give that definition you should ask him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    Your asking the wrong person. I didnt give that definition you should ask him.

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    Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.
    No, you asserted:

    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation.
    Why is that?

    Why do you assert that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    No, you asserted:



    Why is that?

    Why do you assert that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.

    I said
    Everyone that is alive is in a state of being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.

    I said
    Everyone that is alive is in a state of being.
    Sure, but the state of being "alive" is not inherently the state of being "saved". Or do you think that a person can only have one state of being at a time?

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    Talking to Squeaky is like talking to a brick wall.... except the brick wall makes more sense.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Sure, but the state of being "alive" is not inherently the state of being "saved". Or do you think that a person can only have one state of being at a time?
    I said
    Why isnt it. If your alive you still have hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
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    Talking to Squeaky is like talking to a brick wall.... except the brick wall makes more sense.
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    lol Do you realize that goes both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    Why isnt it. If your alive you still have hope.
    One can be alive and not saved.

    We call people in this "state" unbelievers.

    Do you disagree with that? If so, why?

    One can also be (but not at the same time as the above) alive and saved.

    We call people in this state believers.

    Do you disagree, if so why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    One can be alive and not saved.

    We call people in this "state" unbelievers.

    Do you disagree with that? If so, why?

    One can also be (but not at the same time as the above) alive and saved.

    We call people in this state believers.

    Do you disagree, if so why?
    I said
    Everyone was an unbeliever at one time. And no one can be a believer unless God calls them to it. And no one knows who God is going to call tomorrow.

    [Jhn 6:44, 65
    [44] "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. ...
    [65] And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

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