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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Paul called someone a fool.
    Is he is danger of hell fire?

    In danger yes, but on balance of his whole work as a Christian, no.

    Obviously Mt 5:22 was written to Pharsaic people who thought nothing of saying it regularly.

    The problem here is that tenths of percents differences are called fools. We agree on 99.9 of the rest. A person needs to keep some distance between themselves and their ideas, and to put out good support for what they are saying instead of retreating to shouting 'you're-a-fool' as a theological position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    I think this was addressed to RD. But If you knew what Mt 5 was saying, you wouldn't bother presenting a cause.

    RD repeatedly puts me down for believing the NT is Matthew--Revelation.

    re the David's son declaration. It's missing the word declaration (by Christ). The person (RD again I think) was so far off that point, it wasn't worth discussing with him.
    Do you know what you're talking about?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Do you know what you're talking about?



    You seemed to have arrived late. Have you read the OP?

    I was explaining why this question ('how can he be David's son?') stopped Judaism. He was David's line, but not as they knew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You seemed to have arrived late. Have you read the OP?

    I was explaining why this question ('how can he be David's son?') stopped Judaism. He was David's line, but not as they knew it.
    I know what the OP is. I read it when you first posted it. My point is that you, in general, don't know what you're talking about; everything you post is tantamount to gibberish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    I know what the OP is. I read it when you first posted it. My point is that you, in general, don't know what you're talking about; everything you post is tantamount to gibberish.


    Commentary worshipers do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    I know what the OP is. I read it when you first posted it. My point is that you, in general, don't know what you're talking about; everything you post is tantamount to gibberish.



    That would be because you are steeped in a system that is gibberish so when you try to the read the NT plainly, it is confusing. The club's system is forcing the literalism so often found in Judaism itself on the NT, and not accepting that Christ made all things new. The system even says that the offer of Christ was actually an extension of the old covenant until Christ gave up on Israel about that. That he never thought of the Gospel's sacrificial death until after Peter's confession, when (they think) Peter was actually just confessing that Jesus should be the next monarchy king and liberate Israel from Rome.

    Meaning that the offer of a monarchy was not bona fide after all, because Christ was going to change it to a crucified Messiah anyway.

    Consufed? I can see why. The club's system wants it to be a bona fide offer because then it has to be offered again in the millenium or some future point. Making the crucified Gospel a little sideshow about which they don't have much interest.
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    The same system of that club says there are two or more gospels throughout the NT , even in the chapter that comes right after the declaration of the curse of Paul upon other gospels. When that is your starting point, the NT will be confusing.

    On this OP, there is a departure from Judaism, not a validation of it. That's why it stopped all questions from leaders of Judaism. They realized he was talking about a kingship and lordship apart from a monarchy in Judea, as was Peter in Acts 2 about the resurrection. Something bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The same system of that club says there are two or more gospels throughout the NT , even in the chapter that comes right after the declaration of the curse of Paul upon other gospels. When that is your starting point, the NT will be confusing.

    On this OP, there is a departure from Judaism, not a validation of it. That's why it stopped all questions from leaders of Judaism. They realized he was talking about a kingship and lordship apart from a monarchy in Judea, as was Peter in Acts 2 about the resurrection. Something bigger.
    Put down the commentaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The same system of that club says there are two or more gospels throughout the NT , even in the chapter that comes right after the declaration of the curse of Paul upon other gospels.
    If any man preach any other gospel UNTO YOU...(the Galatians)

    That is what it says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The same system of that club says there are two or more gospels throughout the NT , even in the chapter that comes right after the declaration of the curse of Paul upon other gospels. When that is your starting point, the NT will be confusing.

    On this OP, there is a departure from Judaism, not a validation of it. That's why it stopped all questions from leaders of Judaism. They realized he was talking about a kingship and lordship apart from a monarchy in Judea, as was Peter in Acts 2 about the resurrection. Something bigger.
    For the 4,212th time, the "NT" was concerned with the City and the heavens.
    If you can show us where the land promises were nullified, however, we will shut up.

    We will wait. Forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    That would be because you are steeped in a system that is gibberish so when you try to the read the NT plainly, it is confusing. The club's system is forcing the literalism so often found in Judaism itself on the NT, and not accepting that Christ made all things new. The system even says that the offer of Christ was actually an extension of the old covenant until Christ gave up on Israel about that. That he never thought of the Gospel's sacrificial death until after Peter's confession, when (they think) Peter was actually just confessing that Jesus should be the next monarchy king and liberate Israel from Rome.

    Meaning that the offer of a monarchy was not bona fide after all, because Christ was going to change it to a crucified Messiah anyway.

    Consufed? I can see why. The club's system wants it to be a bona fide offer because then it has to be offered again in the millenium or some future point. Making the crucified Gospel a little sideshow about which they don't have much interest.
    Actually I was confused by the things coming from the pulpit when I agreed with you. Everything is exceptionally clear now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Actually I was confused by the things coming from the pulpit when I agreed with you. Everything is exceptionally clear now.
    IP is as he put it - conSUfed

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    For the 4,212th time, the "NT" was concerned with the City and the heavens.
    If you can show us where the land promises were nullified, however, we will shut up.

    We will wait. Forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    IP is as he put it - conSUfed
    I took some of that for allergies yesterday.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    If any man preach any other gospel UNTO YOU...(the Galatians)

    That is what it says.
    Yep, and based on that insanity(MAD) the other 12 Apostles are all accursed because they preached "another gospel". Kinda retarded isn't it ?

    MAD dies when you actually THINK about what it proposes.
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    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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