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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    "No" is my answer to all questions.
    what if the question is "did you really mean to say no"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Is it OK according to yourself?
    it depends on the situation

    if they give me consent to eat their peanut butter and jelly sandwich, then yes, it's ok according to myself


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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what if the question is "did you really mean to say no"?
    Isn't the issue here whenever the question comes up, "Did you really mean to say YES?" Because whenever that question is asked, it's asked of the woman and the man is almost certainly doomed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Isn't the issue here whenever the question comes up, "Did you really mean to say YES?" Because whenever that question is asked, the man is almost certainly doomed.
    kinda like "do these jeans make me look fat"?


    don't even try to answer - just run for the hills

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    Again...it's too late. If that question is ever asked, someone already has plans to see you cuffed and stuffed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    kinda like "do these jeans make me look fat"?

    And kinda like "Does size matter?"

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Do you guys actually believe that if anyone just gives you consent that it makes it OK for you to follow through with the consent?
    The law is clear on the difference between consensual sex and rape. 'Yes can mean no' is not a legal matter, it is a matter of women making poor choices and then trying to criminalize someone else for it.

    Civil law gives consent to abortion, adultery, murder of babies.
    Adultery is still illegal in many states, it just isn't taken very seriously anymore because the sanctity of marriage is being seen as frivolous by the sheer rate of divorce.

    Women are are the divorcers, being 2/3 of those whoit leave their spouse. In the event of adultery, they'll use the Bible to justify it, but it's still plain enmity- God hates divorce either way. Nothing really justifies splitting a family.

    If an unmarried person (male or female) gives you consent to have sex with them, is is now OK for you to follow through with that consent?
    Is this where you pretend a single soul on here never had premarital relations, or relations in between marriages?

    ~~Oh, but that's different~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    .. premarital relations, or relations in between marriages?

    premarital, extramarital, whatever


    wrong is wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    it is a matter of women making poor choices
    And men.


    Adultery is still illegal in many states, it just isn't taken very seriously anymore
    It is taken seriously by me.

    Women are are the divorcers,
    And men.


    In the event of adultery, they'll use the Bible to justify it,
    And men.



    Is this where you pretend a single soul on here never had premarital relations, or relations in between marriages?
    I have never consented to having sex with anyone other than the man I married, and only after we were married.

    How about you, Cru?
    Ever had sex with someone that you were not married to?
    If so, what made you think it was OK to do so?

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    premarital, extramarital, whatever


    wrong is wrong
    Yep.
    With or without consent, wrong is wrong.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Yep.
    With or without consent, wrong is wrong.

    i believe that's already been addressed:

    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    yes, i figured we'd come to this

    there's a reason i dint post this in the ECT forum, tam

    obviously, what these dopey kids are doing is wrong


    my interest is in the legal application of consent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    And men.
    Avoiding accountability.

    And men.
    Avoiding accountability.

    And men.
    Avoiding accountability.

    I have never consented to having sex with anyone other than the man I married, and only after we were married.
    And I'm Zeus, the patricidal king of gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    Avoiding accountability.



    Avoiding accountability.



    Avoiding accountability.
    Nope.
    Putting accountability on the person, whether male or female.



    And I'm Zeus, the patricidal king of gods.
    Is that your way of saying that you did indeed consent to have sex with someone that was not your spouse?
    Too ashamed to answer with a clear yes or no, huh?

    I can.
    I have never consented to have sex with anyone other than the one I was married to.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Is that your way of saying that you did indeed consent to have sex with someone that was not your spouse?
    Too ashamed to answer with a clear yes or no, huh?
    Yes, I have had premarital relations. I'm not a liar, you see, and the more you emphasize 'consent' in your declaration there, the more dubious you are to me in general

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    i guess tam's better than you, because she never sinned

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