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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I don't get mad at ya dude. When puberty kicks in you'll probably grow up a bit anyway.

    A real man recognizes that the agenda is not about equality, but about advantage, being protected no matter what- even of the consequences of their own actions, and making men appear to be victimizing women.

    You are not one of those men

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    How much responsibility do easily bedded women share for the reputations of pick up artists?
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    A real man recognizes that the agenda is not about equality, but about advantage, being protected no matter what- even of the consequences of their own actions, and making men appear to be victimizing women.

    You are not one of those men
    A real mans gotta chuckle at himself and by hell or high water if a woman gets in the way of that then she should be darn right chagrined at best!
    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    How much responsibility do easily bedded women share for the reputations of pick up artists?
    When does no = yes?

    Take your moral pomposity out of the equation for once and just answer on that score.
    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    A real mans gotta chuckle at himself and by hell or high water if a woman gets in the way of that then she should be darn right chagrined at best!
    As opposed to you being chagrined if you get in the way of a woman

    Still have your shirt by the way


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    When does no = yes?

    Take your moral pomposity out of the equation for once and just answer on that score.
    The question is legit and reasonable. You could answer a question just this once.
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    Whether one is given consent is not a licence to do wrong.
    The civil law gives consent to murder babies.
    Doesn't mean it's OK to go ahead and murder babies just because you have consent to do so.

    Same for encouragement.
    Whether another encourages you to do wrong, the responsibility to give in or resist is still upon you.

    Neither consent or encouragement is an excuse for anyone to do wrong.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    .. no means no whether sober (or) drunk...


    but apparently yes doesn't mean yes when drunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    How much responsibility do easily bedded women share for the reputations of pick up artists?
    whatchoo talkin' about willis?


    women don't have any responsibility for their choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Whether one is given consent is not a licence to do wrong.
    The civil law gives consent to murder babies.
    Doesn't mean it's OK to go ahead and murder babies just because you have consent to do so.

    Same for encouragement.
    Whether another encourages you to do wrong, the responsibility to give in or resist is still upon you.

    Neither consent or encouragement is an excuse for anyone to do wrong.


    yes, i figured we'd come to this

    there's a reason i dint post this in the ECT forum, tam

    obviously, what these dopey kids are doing is wrong


    my interest is in the legal application of consent

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    How much responsibility do easily bedded women share for the reputations of pick up artists?
    And why should anyone care either way? If we weren't obsessed with the sexual habits of others, such silly questions wouldn't even be posed.

    We humans make very bad decisions when we're inebriated. And we all know this. Which is why we should not take advantage of each other when in such a state, regardless of perceived assent. Wise, intelligent, and mature men don't have sex with inebriated women, because they understand this. College boys are not wise, intelligent, or mature, and so sadly they must be held to account when they behave badly, or they will never learn to become wise, intelligent, and mature men.

    Instead, they'll end up like many of the overgrown male infants we see posting, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Whether one is given consent is not a licence to do wrong.
    The civil law gives consent to murder babies.
    Doesn't mean it's OK to go ahead and murder babies just because you have consent to do so.

    Same for encouragement.
    Whether another encourages you to do wrong, the responsibility to give in or resist is still upon you.

    Neither consent or encouragement is an excuse for anyone to do wrong.
    Excellent comment! It's not the place of the law to make us be 'good people'. That's our own responsibility. The law's purpose is simply to protect us from each other while allowing us the freedom to mind our own morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureX View Post
    We humans make very bad decisions when we're inebriated.

    then why does the law respect any decisions made while inebriated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    my interest is in the legal application of consent
    If you are only interested in the civil law about it (for this particular argument, not that it is the only thing that concerns you), then take the same approach for homos, abortion, adultery.
    All have legal consent per the civil law.
    According to civil law, none have committed a wrongdoing and none should be punished for it.

    It is also permissible to revoke consent.
    A woman can consent to having sex with a stranger, and can revoke that consent at any time she feels uncomfortable due to the fact that she realizes the stranger's intentions went beyond what her intentions were.
    The extent of his arousal makes no difference as to whether she has to go through with or not.
    The decision is entirely hers to continue or not.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    then why does the law respect any decisions made while inebriated?
    It doesn't any more than it respects any decisions made while not inebriated.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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