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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    After you define it, give examples in your own life that you deem to be racist. If you don't like a certain culture, does that make you racist? If yes, where does race come into play other than a particular race seems to be the main members of that culture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    I agreed mostly but the racism usually is not due to anything done to them by white racists. Because of slavery, their society lags behind white society and they are indignant that their neighborhoods are a dangerous mess.
    Sorry, but that's hogwash.

    The impediments that dark-skinned men and women have to overcome economically and socially to gain any sort of power in this culture are far greater than those of light-skinned people. And this mantra of "personal responsibility" is just society's way of blaming the victims. We build a wall so high that only a very few people of color can manage to scale it and then we use the fact that a few do manage to scale it as an excuse for ignoring the wall we've created to keep most of them pushed to the furthest margins of society. And then we use that marginalization as an excuse to blame them for not wanting to "fit into" mainstream society.

    Then we blame them when they get angry about all of this. Or when they become hopeless. Because nothing is ever "whitey's" fault. Nothing is ever "whitey's" responsibility. Even though "whitey" controls all the levers of power, and of wealth, and of cultural expression in this society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    They are racist out of envy- white people prosper and black people hold each other down. They have suffered very little abuse of white racists, because there are very little white racists. Most white people have simply become frustrated with being called racist for BEING WHITE.
    You are clearly a racist. White people hold all the levers of power, of wealth, and of cultural expression. So of coarse they prosper. They also make it extremely difficult for a person of color to gain access to those levers of power, wealth, and culture. Then the white elite deny and ignore that they are doing this because a few very extraordinary people of color do manage to scale the massive political, cultural, and economic wall keeping them out. They use these exceptions to blame the rest because they are racial bigots who want to believe that all those other people of color are weak, or stupid, or lacking in character. It's what they want to believe so they don't have to recognize their own selfishness and practiced exclusion.

    Being a racist bigot, you will of course deny all of this. Because you want to believe that people of color are weak and stupid and lacking in character. But that you are not. You want to puff yourself up at their expense, and do it based on the color of their skin. And that's what racism is: it's bigotry based on race. And that's what bigotry is: presuming yourself to be superior by falsely denigrating others, simply for the sake of feeling superior, yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureX View Post
    You are clearly a racist.
    No, you're clearly a victim of white guilt.

    White people hold all the levers of power, of wealth, and of cultural expression. So of coarse they prosper. They also make it extremely difficult for a person of color to gain access to those levers of power, wealth, and culture.
    Where's the magical rule stating that people of prosperity and wealth must adopt others into it by existing beside them? It's not even a race thing, both well off blacks and whites leave the poor to their own devices.

    I don't care about the prosperity of either whites or blacks in this country, only the actual down trodden who are both black and white. For whites it's even worse because those as yourself leave the white man out in saying that they have more opportunity (which they don't).
    And you'll justify it by implying that whites deserve it because of the past- who's really the racist here

    Everything else in your post I don't even need to quote, because it's just the typical liberal rant with no more point.

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    What is your definition of racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Ok, from a political perspective the term can come to be loaded, twisted and warped out of all recognition, from both the left and the right, but that's not what I thought was under discussion here.
    From political prospective?? No, it is a societal prospective, and soon to be a complete worldview, where all things are seen through the eye of race. It has become nonsensical and no it was not the right that started or has propagated the political correctness, racial, cultural redefinitions that lands squarely in the lap of liberals... The originators of all social hyperbole as it relates to speech, thought, or worldview. The lefts assertion is that we all act, think, and speak as they do or you are obviously a racist, homophobe, xenophobe, etc., it is nothing more than Marxist socialism at work. There are entire books devoted to this failed philosophy, it has never worked.... And never will outside of force. So much for Liberty eh?
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    Lot of words being thrown around --- racist, bigot, prejudice, etc.


    Which one was GOD when He commanded Israelites not to mix?
    Whichever word you want to apply, it was the right thing to do at that time.
    Being racist, bigoted, prejudice, etc. are not always negative.


    Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 KJV
    (1) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
    (2) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
    (3) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
    (4) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
    (5) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
    (6) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
    (7) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
    (8) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Lot of words being thrown around --- racist, bigot, prejudice, etc.


    Which one was GOD when He commanded Israelites not to mix?
    Whichever word you want to apply, it was the right thing to do at that time.
    Being racist, bigoted, prejudice, etc. are not always negative.
    We live in an age of cognitive dissonance- it's far more typical than otherwise for people to simultaneously hold two opposed notions. In this case, they hold to a god who exhibits the same things they denounce others for.

    On their insanity, they'll start to build up for themselves fictions to remain dissonant- that's what CD is all about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    We live in an age of cognitive dissonance- it's far more typical than otherwise for people to simultaneously hold two opposed notions. In this case, they hold to a god who exhibits the same things they denounce others for.
    This is one of those 'in a way, but not exactly' .
    Or at least for some.

    It would only be cognitive dissonance if one believes that all killing is always wrong.

    One that believes that killing is not always wrong, but sometimes is wrong, wouldn't really fall under the category of cognitive dissonance.



    But I get your drift.
    It's like some you hear say you don't have to be sinless (as in quit all sin) before GOD will save you.
    And then turn right around and tell homos that they can't be saved unless they quit the homo sin first.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureX View Post
    White people hold all the levers of power...

    levers of power:



    not levers of power:



    Quote Originally Posted by purexcrement
    They also make it extremely difficult for a person of color to gain access to those levers of power, wealth, and culture.
    you're an idiot

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    They deny themselves access to those very things by refusing to assimilate
    It an unwritten rule of that society to shun anything culturally white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    levers of power:



    not levers of power:





    you're an idiot
    The biggest level of power is indeed education and whites are not holding them up there....it's the refusal to let black children go to the school of their choice through vouchers . The reason for that is because all the awful schools they came from would shut down due to lack of funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Lot of words being thrown around --- racist, bigot, prejudice, etc.


    Which one was GOD when He commanded Israelites not to mix?
    Whichever word you want to apply, it was the right thing to do at that time.
    Being racist, bigoted, prejudice, etc. are not always negative.


    Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 KJV
    (1) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
    (2) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
    (3) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
    (4) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
    (5) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
    (6) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
    (7) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
    (8) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
    None? And how do you think that connects with the thread or our present day situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    None? And how do you think that connects with the thread or our present day situation?
    Today, one is a racist if they don't want to mix. Does no one have any right to their own preferences anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    See the post below and the thread in general:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4517014

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    To quote your post:
    All are prejudiced about this or that in good and bad ways.
    Racial prejudices, good or bad, are part of everyone's intellectual makeup.
    But racial prejudice is not racism.
    Racism is racial prejudice in action.

    In other words, talking about one's views of this or that racial group is not racism. Acting on one's racial prejudices, good or bad, is racism.

    A more interesting question is:


    Can one who holds negative racial prejudices not avoid being a racist?
    Just to go with your definitions for now....you ask an important question and I think it would be very hard for someone to not end up acting in some way.
    Most prejudice might be based on culture instead of race itself, but is that truly a right vs wrong thing? Is it OK to treat them differently because of it?
    I remember in another thread the issue of names came up and someone said naming is a determining factor of assimilation. But why should black people have to use certain names that white people feel are acceptable?

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