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    we're all idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    Idiots everywhere
    Whether or not you agree with me, I did more than simply vote yes. I gave a qualified answer and said I can see both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Whether or not you agree with me, I did more than simply vote yes. I gave a qualified answer and said I can see both sides.
    Context isnt his forte.
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    Shaming people with problems is damnable, especially those who suffer with substance abuse. It's a disease, a person doesn't choose to be an addict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    Shaming people with problems is damnable, especially those who suffer with substance abuse. It's a disease, a person doesn't choose to be an addict- they made a mistake of using not realizing their innate condition.
    Is God wrong for using the Holy Spirit to convict us of our sins so that we turn to Him for forgiveness?

    Yes, a person chooses to sin, which includes zoning out on drugs and alcohol.

    No one stuck that needle in their arm except them or kept them pulling from that bottle till they passed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Is God wrong for using the Holy Spirit to convict us of our sins so that we turn to Him for forgiveness?

    Yes, a person chooses to sin, which includes zoning out on drugs and alcohol.

    No one stuck that needle in their arm except them or kept them pulling from that bottle till they passed out.
    You're a joke. All of you are, seriously- as I said, a perfect Hell for you would be an eternity of walking in other people's shoes. God doesn't convict you of anything, you're simply a hypocrite who doesn't live up to anything that isn't convenient for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    You're a joke. All of you are, seriously- as I said, a perfect Hell for you would be an eternity of walking in other people's shoes.
    You go first, walk in a womans and then have to spend weeks around only men like yourself, let me know how it works out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    You go first, walk in a womans ...


    make sure they have high heels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    You go first, walk in a womans and then have to spend weeks around only men like yourself, let me know how it works out for you.


    You could just skip to the last two minutes, where she confesses that being a woman is a privilege. You don't like me because I'm not blind to your lying, manipulative, self serving crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post


    You could just skip to the last two minutes, where she confesses that being a woman is a privilege. You don't like me because I'm not blind to your manipulative, self serving crap.
    Wrong, i dont like you because you are a misogynist jerk that whines and makes excuses for men to harm women, then cries like a baby when he gets called on it, and i think you are the most immature guy at tol.

    Does that help you better understand my position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    Shaming people with problems is damnable, especially those who suffer with substance abuse. It's a disease, a person doesn't choose to be an addict.
    I agree that we need to help people with addiction and not simply try to shame them. That's why in my original post I raised a concern that shaming people with addictions could end up isolating them and the problems would just get worse. But I think we may be able to stigmatize the behavior without shaming particular people.

    On the last part, I can agree that once an addiction gets going then it's not something someone can simply control, they certainly choose to start down a path that may lead to addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    I agree that we need to help people with addiction and not simply try to shame them. That's why in my original post I raised a concern that shaming people with addictions could end up isolating them and the problems would just get worse. But I think we may be able to stigmatize the behavior without shaming particular people.

    On the last part, I can agree that once an addiction gets going then it's not something someone can simply control, they certainly choose to start down a path that may lead to addiction.
    And choose whether or not to keep going down it again when they get clean, and choose to get in their car when they are high, or get high there and put their own family or others at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Is God wrong for using the Holy Spirit to convict us of our sins so that we turn to Him for forgiveness?
    Waiting for he-man master of the universe, to answer this question asked of him.
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    i don't see much benefit to public shaming (regardless of what i may or may not have said before )

    for many, the opinion of the public has no influence on their behavior

    for some, the pile-on of disapproval (and abuse) can be devastating and may lead to suicide


    i just don't see someone like the woman in your picture saying "oh hey - all these strangers on facebook think i'm a terrible person. I should clean up my act"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Wrong, i dont like you because you are a misogynist jerk that whines and makes excuses for men to harm women, then cries like a baby when he gets called on it, and i think you are the most immature guy at tol.

    Does that help you better understand my position?
    I don't like you because you are a manipulator who masquerades the subtle misandry you deny you have as mere criticism. As soon as criticism comes to women, you try to all of a sudden bring up platitudes and throw everyone into it. In the thread on consent, you and Tam's arguments backfired completely and that's exactly what you both resorted to.

    You simply rely on foolish men to come to your aide, and wouldn't stand knee high to an ant without them in any subject pertaining to feminist ideology. If anyone cries like a baby, it's the infantilized women such as yourself who were the ones to get loud with me and gather the attention of your cronies in the first place.

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