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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Oh please, spare me that lame worn out argument.

    The New Testament clearly states that Jesus chose apostles as leaders and made Peter the leader. Paul came later, and Paul submitted tom Peter's direction.

    Go back and learn how to read the Bible properly.
    Peter never even left Jerusalem for 14 years following the resurrection. When forced to leave, he went to the Diaspora in the Roman Empire.
    So, you don't follow the clear meaning of the Holy Spirit inspired Scriptures when they conflict with your pre-conceived notions?

    2 Peter 3:15-16 - And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrestle, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    Peter had difficulty understanding the deep revelations given to Paul directly by the Risen Christ, and Peter acknowledged that Paul's writings were Scripture. The Holy Spirit clearly tells us that Paul is the Apostle to the Gentiles: Romans 11:13, 1 Timothy 2:7, 2 Timothy 1:11. You can choose to ignore the Scriptures, but (as Peter says) it is at your own peril.

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    Wasn't the RCC the first Catholic Church?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Is the Catholic church the church Paul referred to as the church of God?
    Yes. And Christ's one historic Church was already being commonly referred to as "the Catholic Church" by the close of the 1st century A.D.
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Wasn't the RCC the first Catholic Church?
    No. (See Post #19 above.)
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    Constantine was the Roman Emperor and oversaw the creation of the Roman State Religion in 325 A.D.
    There was no "Roman State Religion." Rather, the Edict of Milan made it legal to practice the Christian religion along with other religious traditions in the Roman Empire. Christianity (Catholicism) was legalized, not made an official Roman religion.
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    It is an abomination in the sight of God for the true Church to accept another Head other tham Jesus Christ. However as the RCC is not a true Church then that is the only reason that wrath has not come upon you.
    Yes, this is what you have been fed by your preferred recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect, anyway.
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Nothing in the Bible about a Catholic church in Rome.

    The churches that John wrote to were all in Asia, Revelation 1:4.

    There was another church spoken of in Revelation called "The great whore church" Revelation 17:1-18. Maybe that is your church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruciform View Post
    There was no "Roman State Religion." Rather, the Edict of Milan made it legal to practice the Christian religion along with other religious traditions in the Roman Empire. Christianity (Catholicism) was legalized, not made an official Roman religion.
    Was it made the official Nazi religion?

    Just curious, I had heard such at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruciform View Post
    There was no "Roman State Religion." Rather, the Edict of Milan made it legal to practice the Christian religion along with other religious traditions in the Roman Empire. Christianity (Catholicism) was legalized, not made an official Roman religion.
    That's interesting, because the Emperor Constantine presided over the Nicean Council. I think you would save yourself some embarrassment by checking more reliable sources (rather than biased RCC sources).
    There WAS a Roman State Religion from 325 AD onward.

    Perhaps you could look into the murder of Christians by the Roman Catholic Jesuits because they owned or read a Bible in their own "common language".

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    I guess all those churches which have 'Roman Catholic Church' printed dead on their signs have it wrong then

    Suppose ol' Catholic Crusader didn't think that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucible View Post
    I guess all those churches which have 'Roman Catholic Church' printed dead on their signs have it wrong then

    Suppose ol' Catholic Crusader didn't think that far.
    That's because the ARE Roman Catholic! Good grief!

    Go to a Chaldean Rite parish and the sign will say "Chaldean Catholic Church."
    Go to a Byzantine Rite parish and the sign will say "Byzantine Catholic Church."
    Go to a Latin Rite parish and the sign will say "Roman Catholic Church."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    That's because the ARE Roman Catholic! Good grief!

    Go to a Chaldean Rite parish and the sign will say "Chaldean Catholic Church."
    Go to a Byzantine Rite parish and the sign will say "Byzantine Catholic Church."
    Go to a Latin Rite parish and the sign will say "Roman Catholic Church."
    Reformed Christians do not protest those churches, but the Roman magisterium.

    So we are correct when we say 'RCC'

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Was it made the official Nazi religion?
    No.
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Nothing in the Bible about a Catholic church in Rome.
    Entirely irrelevant.

    The churches that John wrote to were all in Asia, Revelation 1:4.
    Then the Protestant "churches" in the U.S. aren't legitimate "churches," correct, since they aren't mentioned in the Bible...?
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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