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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    You Darby followers can make up all the excuses you want, but the Transfiguration was not the Coming of the Lord.
    Argue with Peter when you see him.
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    You Darby followers can make up all the excuses you want, but the Transfiguration was not the Coming of the Lord.

    (Matt 16:27-28) For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

    28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”


    The above two verses are speaking of ONE EVENT.

    Angels were not present at the Transfiguration.

    Rewards were not given to all men at the Transfiguration.

    Common sense (something that cannot be used with Dispensationalism) tells us that Jesus wouldn't tell a group of men that some of them would not taste death for an event that was six days away.
    Was that Darby's view on those passages in Matthew 16?

    Or are you just being you again?

    STP's is not my view on those passages.

    Neither is yours.

    What is it with you that you post against all Dispies in general (despite our different specifics) as if you are some sort of the proverbial "woman scorned?"

    You acted that way five years ago with Hilston.

    The moment you disagreed with him, out came your "one size against all" antics of "a woman scorned."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Argue with Peter when you see him.
    Luke proves you wrong

    (Luke 9:27 KJV) But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

    Was the Transfiguration the kingdom of God?

    Mark proves you wrong also:

    (Mark 9:9 KJV) And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.

    You want us to believe that Peter, James, and John saw the coming of the Lord, but couldn't tell anyone until after Jesus rose from the dead.

    Dispensationalism is a mess.
    (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Was that Darby's view on those passages in Matthew 16?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Yes.
    He may or may not have; I wouldn't know.

    While, where your word on ANY thing is concerned, you will have to post evidence EACH AND EVERY time - you have years and years on TOL lying, distorting, cherry picking, baiting others, you name it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    He may or may not have; I wouldn't know.

    While, where your word on ANY thing is concerned, you will have to post evidence EACH AND EVERY time - you have years and years on TOL lying, distorting, cherry picking, baiting others, you name it.
    You can read it HERE
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Yes.
    Yay, Darby!
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Yay, Darby!
    Before Darby, no one ever claimed the Transfiguration was the Coming of the Lord.

    If you look at Darby's writings, he said "...be it as alleged, the destruction of Jerusalem, which I do not believe..."

    Darby knew that's what the Coming of the Lord meant, and that he was now going to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Before Darby, no one ever claimed the Transfiguration was the Coming of the Lord.

    If you look at Darby's writings, he said "...be it as alleged, the destruction of Jerusalem, which I do not believe..."

    Darby knew that's what the Coming of the Lord meant, and that he was now going to change it.
    Tet asserts not one stone was left - which I do no believe.

    Me changing a thing, or disagreeing with it, you incompetent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Tet asserts not one stone was left - which I do no believe.
    The Jewish Talmud says you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Argue with Peter when you see him.

    Glad you are saying that, in one sense, STP, because at least you are flexible enough to say there are other things that are comings.
    All Lives Matter --Marcus Sanford, youtube.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Glad you are saying that, in one sense, STP, because at least you are flexible enough to say there are other things that are comings.
    How many "the coming of the Lord" are there after the cross?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Tet asserts not one stone was left - which I do no believe.

    Me changing a thing, or disagreeing with it, you incompetent.


    Literalism will only gag us. It must be stopped. Don't bother interacting with anyone who is stuck in it.

    I work at a place with several marked delivery vans and yet the employee's code of conduct is that 'no one is to know what kind of service you are providing'!!! This the kind of nonsense that gets going when a catastrophe like the DofJ happens, but the pesky literalist comes along and says hey a couple stones are stacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    How many "the coming of the Lord" are there after the cross?


    Well, I don't think that is a separate question from the contingency of a delay. If the disciples say that one of the comings may be delayed, how do you do the count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Well, I don't think that is a separate question from the contingency of a delay. If the disciples say that one of the comings may be delayed, how do you do the count?
    There was only one "the coming of the Lord".

    I don't see a delay. Christ Jesus said it would happen before His contemporaries all passed away.

    If you're referring to 2 Peter 3:15, there was no delay.
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