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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    Do you feel that was speaking to every person in every calling, including prostitutes, assassins, and abortion doctors?
    what about servants working for prostitutes, assassins, and abortion doctors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what about servants working for prostitutes, assassins, and abortion doctors?
    do you have the need to ask such obvious questions?

    Read the OP verses.
    don't play a stupid games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    do you have the need to ask such obvious questions?

    Read the OP verses.
    don't play a stupid games.
    wasn't asking you, troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Nope.
    Even if the assassins worked for the Roman government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    do you have the need to ask such obvious questions?

    Read the OP verses.
    don't play a stupid games.
    No, actually that's a good question, and one I intended to bring up eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what about servants working for prostitutes, assassins, and abortion doctors?
    Can we revisit that in a couple posts? I was going to bring up that same question from a different angle, we'll get back to it I promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    No, actually that's a good question, and one I intended to bring up eventually.
    it's related to last night's discussion of chaplains in the military, as i see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    Can we revisit that in a couple posts? I was going to bring up that same question from a different angle, we'll get back to it I promise.
    take your time, i have to unplug before I lose the light - out into the cold cold world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    Even if the assassins worked for the Roman government?
    No doubt.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    it's related to last night's discussion of chaplains in the military, as i see it
    I can see the relation. I was going to extend that to whether there was a difference between those that detonate the bombs, those that dispatch the bombers, those that protect the bombers, those that repair the planes and build the bombs, those that feed the troops that detonate the bombs, all the way down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    No doubt.
    So Paul was NOT telling assassins that work for the Roman government that they should continue in their calling? Just want to make sure we're on the same page here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    So Paul was NOT telling assassins that work for the Roman government that they should continue in their calling? Just want to make sure we're on the same page here.
    Yep.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    I can see the relation. I was going to extend that to whether there was a difference between those that detonate the bombs, those that dispatch the bombers, those that protect the bombers, those that repair the planes and build the bombs, those that feed the troops that detonate the bombs, all the way down the line.
    now we're back at the morality of national war, ala ww2


    ok, i'm out

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Yep.
    Is there a moral difference between killing someone with a spear, a crossbow, a pistol, an assault rifle, or a sniper rifle? Assuming that the wielders of the weapons use them under direction from the government, be it Roman, British, or otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    now we're back at the morality of national war, ala ww2
    ok, i'm out
    I'm not sure why you would shy away from that, considering (from what I assumed) that you see those that kill face to face as being already justified.

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