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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel View Post
    OK, how about a simpler version of that questions. In Earth gravity a free-falling object accelerates at 9.8 m/s^2, meaning that it is possible to calculate how much time it will take any solid object (not counting parachutes, floating feathers, and the like) from a given height. This is true regardless of the mass of the object. A brick will fall just as fast as a marble or a bowling ball or an elephant.

    So, how long will it take a building to collapse with its weight falling through each floor, and breaking the new floor in turn? Less time than free fall? Just as much time as free fall? Or will it take more time (slow down the fall) if it has to break through hundreds of floors, each one in turn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel View Post
    a) Falling through a hundred different layers of concrete makes the object reach the ground in less time than free fall?

    b) Falling through a hundred different layers of concrete makes no difference to the total time of the fall?

    c) Falling through a hundred different layers of concrete makes the object reach the ground in more time than free fall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    So, how long will it take a building
    what point on the building?

    the environment and stresses are different for the 2nd floor as compared to the 104th floor
    to collapse with its weight falling through each floor,

    not every floor fell "through" the one below it

    and breaking the new floor in turn? Less time than free fall? Just as much time as free fall? Or will it take more time (slow down the fall) if it has to break through hundreds of floors, each one in turn?
    it will fall at a rate lower (smaller, lesser?) than free fall, but not by much

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what point on the building?

    the environment and stresses are different for the 2nd floor as compared to the 104th floor
    The force of gravitational acceleration is the same on every piece of the building regardless of which floor it is on, what altitude it is at, what stress the material is under, or the composition of the material.

    not every floor fell "through" the one below it

    it will fall at a rate lower (smaller, lesser?) than free fall, but not by much
    I think some real world problem solving might help drive the physics of this home. If you had to drop from a hundred stories, would you rather fall ten feet one hundred times, or a thousand feet all at once? Which fall (or falls) would leave you less likely to have broken legs (or die) at the end?

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...Fspeedtime.pdf

    One hundred falls of a bit under a second each, of a total time of roughly 100 seconds?
    Or one single fall of one thousand feet, of a total time of roughly 10 seconds?

    Each time a fall gets broken by an object it is going to add more time to the fall. If the fall is "broken" by something insubstantial like a sheet paper or pigeon the difference will be inconsequential, but in the "official 911 story" the fall is broken by a solid structure designed to be load bearing.

    With this in mind, dig up one of those several videos that were recorded of the collapse of those towers. When falling in the video, how long does it take to visually see the tower collapse down to the ground? It's falling at the same speed as if you dropped a rock through air in free fall. And the video shows debris blasting out floors below where it collapses before the collapse arrives. Not "melting" but debris blasting... like the way you would detonate the supports on a building in demolition, to bring the floors crashing down from the top at free-fall speed.

    It's not my country and I have no interest in arguing with people here about this, but I will suggest that a little bit of discernment might be used before endorsing a crusade to place targeted ethnic groups in concentration camps. Perhaps a documentary like "Loose Change" might be beneficial (listen to both sides of an issue before making up one's mind.) The USA might not be the holy city on a hill that it's made out to be but that shouldn't matter. Our citizenship is in heaven regardless of what government or regime rules in the here and now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    .... the fall is broken by a solid structure designed to be load bearing.

    nope

    it was broken by a severely damaged and weakened structure that no longer met design specs

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