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    too many beasts
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    for some Bible versions. As many as 296 in the KJV and as little as 87 in the NIV. How many does your version have? Granted what makes a beast a beast is not well defined but words are. So it looks like translators are interpreting as well as translating. Who can you trust?

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    in the north
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    according to Daniel. The king of the north cannot be identified without identifying the king of the south and his daughter. Will it be consistent with the "ten horns and the abomination of desolation? Yes, it will.

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    in the south
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    with a daughter. One of his princes, or commanders as other versions would have it, would become a stronger king of the north who shall place the abomination of desolation. Fatimah is the daughter of Mohammed and Muawiyah was his commader in the north. A perfect fit.

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    in Daniel
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    that can helps us with the number 666. In Daniel 9:2 the word number refers to years. John knows Daniel and this might be the clue we need. So lets see if it fits. What happened in the year 666? What do the historians say?

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    666
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    nothing happened. One historian gets close and the other gets it on the money but both require a calculation. Norwich in his book "Byzantium" has "The ensuing strife continued until 661, when Ali's own assassination left Muawiya supreme. For the next five years the Muslim world would be in ferment - and Byzantium could breath again." Gibbon gets close with 668 but his account turns out to be more interesting. We shall see.

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    Gibbon has
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    with dates and calendars. He writes, "Forty-six years after the flight of Mahomet from Mecca, his disciples appeared in arms under the walls of Constantinople." That would be 668. "In this inquiry I shall unfold the events that rescued our ancestors of Britain, and our neighbours of Gaul, from the civil and religious yoke of the Koran;" Gibbon introduces the threat of Islam. His 46 years become very interesting when you consider other calendars.

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